Need help with Uc Please

newtoyou99

My partner claims Dla high rate mobility.
Partner receives 2 pensions
1 = 120.00 per week taxable
2 = 125.00 per week non taxable
In september we are both going self employed for 16 hour per week. @ min wage.
We have 1 child aged 6.
Own our home.
Have no savings over 6000.
We applyed for tax credits but told we need to apply for UC.
Have tried to put information in turn2us but will not work because of DLA.
Could anybody give us a guide to what we might be entitled to if anything please

Mersey_2

In short, it depends when you both register as self-employed.


Because:


The Self-employed would fail the Universal Credit Gateway conditions, so you would indeed have to claim Working Tax Credits instead.


However, if unemployed, you would indeed be signposted to claim Universal Credit online.

kimplus8

If you are both working then you would claim. WTC not universal credit at the moment.

Icequeen99

Mersey wrote: »

In short, it depends when you both register as self-employed.


Because:


The Self-employed would fail the Universal Credit Gateway conditions, so you would indeed have to claim Working Tax Credits instead.


However, if unemployed, you would indeed be signposted to claim Universal Credit online.

This person could be in a digital area - so there would be no gateway conditions

If you enter your postcode at https://www.universalcreditinfo.net it will tell you whether you are in a digital area or not. The rules are different depending on which you are in.

OP - are you already claiming Child tax credit? If so, then WTC can be added to your CTC claim, if you are not and need to claim both you will need to check what area you are in for UC.

IQ

Icequeen99

kimplus8 wrote: »

If you are both working then you would claim. WTC not universal credit at the moment.

In some areas you cannot make brand new claims for tax credits anymore. See my post above where you can check what your area is.

IQ

Mersey_2

True, although the full service digital areas still only cover 4 London boroughs and a dozen other constituencies ie 25 out of 650 from memory.


Plus there are still Gateway conditions to satisfy for UC claimants ie the self-employed cannot claim UC.


Although I'm aware of the DWP wrongly telling claimants to just claim online and then they'll sort out any problems later manually re contributions-based JSA and so on.

Icequeen99

Mersey wrote: »

True, although the full service digital areas still only cover 4 London boroughs and a dozen other constituencies ie 25 out of 650 from memory.


Plus there are still Gateway conditions to satisfy for UC claimants ie the self-employed cannot claim UC.


Although I'm aware of the DWP wrongly telling claimants to just claim online and then they'll sort out any problems later manually re contributions-based JSA and so on.

There are more than 25 now - see http://revenuebenefits.org.uk/universal-credit/guidance/who-can-claim-universal-credit/digital-full-service/#What are the current plans for further digital roll-out for the full list of postcodes that are digital.

I am not sure what you mean about there still being gateway conditions for UC claimants and the self-employed - in live service areas yes but in digital areas everyone under state pension credit age has to claim UC instead of tax credits. There are no gateway conditions in those areas even for the self-employed.

IQ

Mersey_2

My point was that in 80% of areas it's still WTC not UC.


Even on your link you provided, after you enter a post code, it lists the Gateway conditions which tell you that the self employed cannot claim UC. [unless in one of the digital areas listed]


Which is what the OP and her OH want to do in Sep.