Garden is a separate plot with planning

eddddy

BobQ wrote: »

Have a look on the Council's planning portal, you may find all the papers relating to the planning application....

But bear in mind that the buyer of the plot may not like the existing plans and decide to apply for new planning consent.

e.g. An 'aggressive' developer might try for a larger house, or perhaps two houses etc.

Missus_Hyde

eddddy wrote: »

But bear in mind that the buyer of the plot may not like the existing plans and decide to apply for new planning consent.

e.g. An 'aggressive' developer might try for a larger house, or perhaps two houses etc.

I'm afraid that unless I could afford to buy both the house and the plot I'd walk away from this house; albeit it might be lovely in every other respect.

There are too many uncertainties and the word "development" always has me running for the hills!

AdrianC

Newbie321 wrote: »

We're looking at a house that has a huge and lovely garden. They are separate plots, although they not physically separated. Both are advertised separately, but there is the option of buying both plots together. As of today, we can't afford both.

So you would not be buying a house with a huge and lovely garden.
You would be buying a house that has somebody else's huge and lovely garden next to it.

The garden plot has planning permission for a house.

...somebody else's huge and unlovely building plot next to it.

However the plans involve building road access through the side of the house, within the boundary of the house plot. Otherwise, the garden is an island with neighbour's gardens completely surrounding it.

I suspect that you would find a right of way for access to that building plot written into the legals for the house, if the vendor has any sense.

Newbie321

Thanks all. Lots to think about and lots to ask. As a start I will look for the plans on the council's website. But as some have mentioned, it might be one to walk away from because of the uncertainty involved.

eddddy

Newbie321 wrote: »

Thanks all. Lots to think about and lots to ask. As a start I will look for the plans on the council's website. But as some have mentioned, it might be one to walk away from because of the uncertainty involved.

There is risk and uncertainty associated with this property - so the selling price should be lower to reflect this.

(So a similar property with no risk or uncertainty is likely to sell for more than this one.)

So you need to consider whether the price reflects the risk, and what level of risk you are comfortable taking.

prowla

Are you saying that building on the garden plot would include access via the existing house's plot?

moneyistooshorttomention

prowla wrote: »

Are you saying that building on the garden plot would include access via the existing house's plot?

Sounds like it to me and, logically, it's obvious the owner of new house would go through the garden of the existing house to get to the rest of the garden of the existing house iyswim.

Personally - whatever the end result was going to be like - I think I would find it too upsetting to look over the garden wall at the rest of my garden (ie the house's existing garden) and see another house sitting there on it. I would be wanting to use the rest of "my" garden and getting very frustrated that I couldnt - ie because it had been sold off as a "plot".

It's easier mentally to cope with a too small garden if you know that's all the house has ever had in the first place I would think.

brodawel

[QUOTE=I think I would find it too upsetting to look over the garden wall at the rest of my garden (ie the house's existing garden) and see another house sitting there on it. I would be wanting to use the rest of "my" garden and getting very frustrated that I couldnt - ie because it had been sold off as a "plot".

It's easier mentally to cope with a too small garden if you know that's all the house has ever had in the first place I would think.[/QUOTE]

Yes that's how I'd feel too. If the new house/plot was already there you don't know any different, but losing my view or sense of space around me would depress me.

PasturesNew

Their preferred buyer will buy both, build the house/access and join/separate the title deeds so the boundary's moved.

The seller is simply not bothering to do this separation of lands because the developer that buys it might have other ideas about what to build, so will probably go down the change of planning permission route anyway.

So, this is really for developers, not for somebody to buy/live in the house.

KRB2725

We bought a house exactly like this. The garden plot had actually been sold prior to us buying the house, but the dividing fence hadn't been erected.

It all worked out fine. We are happy in our home with a manageable but decent sized garden & we have a lovely next door neighbour!