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Rabbits in my flat

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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    magicpork wrote: »
    Samantha, can you let us know any kind of precedent?

    Or if you're suggesting OP to taken on this case and write history then I guess OP's time and money should probably be spent somewhere else.

    The tenant referred to back in post #5 has already been there and done that.
  • AdrianC
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    Except they haven't. Because that's a very different situation.
  • cbrown372
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    Good point. A top hat perhaps? :D

    We had a pet rabbit when I was young who had its own top hat. Grandpa was a member of the Magic Circle and it was a working rabbit :D

    We didn't live in a flat though and the rabbit had its own run.
    Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama ;)
  • davidmcn
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Except they haven't. Because that's a very different situation.

    Not that different - it's a landlord accepting that the legislation overrides a prohibition in the lease, and that it isn't restricted to allotments.
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  • Miss_Samantha
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    Precedent can be useful and important.

    Here precedents would be useful for those who claim that the Act only applies to allotments of that 'any' has some special meaning in this Act alone.

    As said before, the question of flats is also interesting.

    But there is no need to scare OP.

    If the presence of rabbits in her flat is established and the management co. claims breach of lease then she can point to s.12 of the Allotment Act 1950 (and add that the rabbits are kept in a way that isn't causing a nuisance or health and safety problems) and ask why they therefore think she is in breach of her lease.
    That's just one letter.

    That's basically what was suggested all the way back in post #5 before this rather long and not very constructive 'debate'.
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,482 Forumite
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    edited 1 August 2016 at 10:34AM
    The problem is that some of us don't want the OP to look ridiculous and thereby lose his/her representations to the Management Company before they have even begun.

    You have also not addressed my not unreasonable observation that the legislation gives the right to build "buildings" to house rabbits and chickens (or is it only hens), which doesn't make sense if those buildings are to be inside other buildings.

    Are you therefore saying that this legislation gives the right to build chicken sheds inside a leasehold flat and keep many chickens there, subject to the requirements on health and nuisance, because I think that probably weakens your case.
  • thesaint
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    edited 1 August 2016 at 10:34AM
    To all those who are wanting a precedent, please note that the chance of someone getting dragged to a higher court for keeping a couple of rabbits is extremely slim.

    When the argument degenerates to building chicken sheds in flats and keeping "many" chickens, then there's not much else to say.
    Well life is harsh, hug me don't reject me.
  • Cornucopia
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    thesaint wrote: »
    When the argument degenerates to building chicken sheds in flats and keeping "many" chickens, then there's not much else to say.

    You say "degenerates" and I say "take to its logical conclusion"...

    You cannot pick and choose your law. The suggestion is that the relevant section applies to the interior of leasehold properties. The logical conclusion of that is the ability to create buildings within the building to house one's chickens and rabbits, and then keep them there.
  • jimpix12
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    Well, I'm more than happy to pay something towards the OP's legal fees if they wish to get a solicitor to challenge this to save the wabbits. Set up a GoFundMe page please, just so we can see who is right and who is wrong.
    "The only man who makes money from a gold rush is the one selling the shovels..."
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