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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    The mortgage was already offered they do the valuation after.

    Never to my knowledge. The property is the security for the loan so pivotal to a mortgage offer being made.
  • haras_nosirrah
    haras_nosirrah Posts: 2,208 Forumite
    Hsbc make an offer subject to valuation
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Kynthia
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    Some people don't seem to know what gazunderimg is. It's not renegotiating after the survey, it's waiting until very near to exchange when everything is virtually ready to go and the seller is now very invested in the process and then springing a price reduction on them. It's underhanded and feels like blackmail as it's done without good reason when the sale falling through will cause great distress and disruption to plans.

    It's standard across the buying property buying and selling industry that offers are subject to survey, and that if anything significant is found or the qualified surveyor values the property at a lower price then a renegotiation is likely. Yes the seller doesn't have to agree but it's not wrong in anyway and generally considered sensible not to pay more than the valuation.
    Don't listen to me, I'm no expert!
  • jimpix12
    jimpix12 Posts: 1,095 Forumite
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    Some very angry responses here. How dare the buyer have the nerve to pull out because they've been effectively told they're overpaying. The cheek of it!
    "The only man who makes money from a gold rush is the one selling the shovels..."
  • Harper123
    Harper123 Posts: 66 Forumite
    spunko2010 wrote: »
    Some very angry responses here. How dare the buyer have the nerve to pull out because they've been effectively told they're overpaying. The cheek of it!

    I wouldn't pay more than something was valued at. If a house I was buying was valued lower I'd reduce my offer to said value.

    What happened to the OP is very different to gazundering or making a new offer 30% lower than the agreed price due to some mythical brexit price drops. So I agree with the OP. However, if the vendors then rejected my new offer based on the valuation price Id then just withdraw and be on my merry way. I probably wouldn't have posted on the internet that they ruined my life :)
  • jimpix12
    jimpix12 Posts: 1,095 Forumite
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    I think the OP meant the transaction had been ruined, not her life.
    "The only man who makes money from a gold rush is the one selling the shovels..."
  • Harper123
    Harper123 Posts: 66 Forumite
    spunko2010 wrote: »
    I think the OP meant the transaction had been ruined, not her life.

    I think it was the dramatic use of the phrase that it had been ruined for them. The last time I heard someone say it had all been ruined for them was my god daughter at a birthday party. She was talking about balloons and is 3 :)
  • undetterred
    undetterred Posts: 635 Forumite
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    I didn't realise there were unwritten rules in buying a house. All those people who pulled out of sales in the past month must not get it either. The house is worth what the valuer says in my book. I can either pay it or not and I've chosen the latter. I did try to negotiate.

    The deal is off and that much is clear to both sides so little point in discussing this point really now but thanks anyway




    Seen sense at last,quit whinging.
  • tara747
    tara747 Posts: 10,238 Forumite
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    Kynthia wrote: »
    Some people don't seem to know what gazunderimg is. It's not renegotiating after the survey, it's waiting until very near to exchange when everything is virtually ready to go and the seller is now very invested in the process and then springing a price reduction on them. It's underhanded and feels like blackmail as it's done without good reason when the sale falling through will cause great distress and disruption to plans.

    It's standard across the buying property buying and selling industry that offers are subject to survey, and that if anything significant is found or the qualified surveyor values the property at a lower price then a renegotiation is likely. Yes the seller doesn't have to agree but it's not wrong in anyway and generally considered sensible not to pay more than the valuation.



    Exactly. This is not a case of gazundering.
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  • beanandbean
    beanandbean Posts: 128 Forumite
    People have way over complicated this.

    Buyer says they will buy for X price.
    Seller agrees.
    Buyer now says they don't want to pay X but will pay Z.
    Seller says no.

    That's it then. Seller doesn't have to sell, buyer doesn't have to buy. The buyer has tried to negotiate, the seller hasn't changed their view. Case closed - no house sale.

    Thanks, I was truly lost reading this thread!
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