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Pet clause in lease nightmare!

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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Is the 'nice gal' in this case you, or the dog?

    It's probobly not much comfort but my view is that if people must keep dogs, they should do so in the countryside, or, if they must, in a house with its own garden.

    Like Hoploz, I'd pay extra for a flat where there'd be no dogs.
  • worried_jim
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    We have a no pets clause where I live and it drives me mad when people ignore it. The lovely gardens are for everyone's safe clean enjoyment, I don't pay £1400 per year for your dog to !!!! in it. "Oh , but it's just a small dog"- if we say yes to that how can we say no to the chav with the pit bull killing the kids. No means no. The rules are to protect everyone.
  • Davesnave
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    In the leasehold properties near me, all occupants have a 'no dogs' clause and at least half of them have, or have had, dogs.

    They even have a field to exercise said pooches, but as none of them want to pay to maintain it, that's full of bramble & scrub, so they walk them elsewhere, including the verges that I have to strim. Hitting dog faeces with something revolving at 8000 rpm is an experience I can cheerfully do without.

    Can't agree more that 'no dogs' should mean what it says, but it won't because we're a nation of 'animal lovers,' especially animals that can be trained to fawn on us and boost our feelings of self-worth.....

    Gosh, I bet that's made me popular with some people!:rotfl:
  • LKO2088
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    Ok this has thread has gone completely off topic... I just wanted some advice about the lease... Thanks though.
  • Better_Days
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    In the leasehold properties near me, all occupants have a 'no dogs' clause and at least half of them have, or have had, dogs.

    They even have a field to exercise said pooches, but as none of them want to pay to maintain it, that's full of bramble & scrub, so they walk them elsewhere, including the verges that I have to strim. Hitting dog faeces with something revolving at 8000 rpm is an experience I can cheerfully do without.

    Can't agree more that 'no dogs' should mean what it says, but it won't because we're a nation of 'animal lovers,' especially animals that can be trained to fawn on us and boost our feelings of self-worth.....

    Gosh, I bet that's made me popular with some people!:rotfl:

    Aww Dave, maybe a little harsh ;););) although I do have a lot of sympathy with the strimmer issue. Not nice at all, horrible in fact.

    Recently rehomed a little dog from Bosnia, I get company whilst on my own all day, and some evenings, and she gets a roof over her head, and regular meals. Plus she already seems to be building up a fan club in the village :D But then, she isn't a bother to anyone.

    Dogs in flats, yes I can see that can be a problem if people are thoughtless regarding their neighbours, just like with loud music and screaming kids.
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  • FBaby
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    The question is, does your dog bark or is likely to cry and therefore disturb the neighbours?
  • bouicca21
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    A no pets clause may be common, but it's not universal. Pets are permitted in my block :)

    Sadly the moral of the story is that when buying a flat you need to check the lease before spending money. Apart from the pets issue, it's advisable to find out exactly how long the lease is, as EAs are notoriously flakey on the subject.

    My dogs have sadly passed on, and I doubt I'll get another, but it's good to know that I can.
  • Davesnave
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    edited 27 July 2016 at 10:50AM
    LKO2088 wrote: »
    Ok this has thread has gone completely off topic... I just wanted some advice about the lease... Thanks though.
    I don't think it has.

    Despite my feelings on the matter, I pointed out that in my personal experience, such clauses are often ignored.

    They are also common in rental agreements, and often ignored there too. When I moved, I found 3 letting agents in 24 hours who were 'flexible' on pets, supposedly banned in all their rentals.

    I agree with others that the 'may' in the clause is a probable let out, provided you have a well-behaved dog. If the intention was to ban dogs completely, there would be no ambiguity.

    The bigger picture, however, is that in some leasehold situations, where their terms aren't enforced strictly, residents are prone to take liberties in other directions. This makes information-gathering particularly important prior to exchange, although on this forum people recommend speaking with as many existing residents as possible, in any type of property purchase.
  • Davesnave
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    edited 27 July 2016 at 10:52AM
    Aww Dave, maybe a little harsh ;););) although I do have a lot of sympathy with the strimmer issue. Not nice at all, horrible in fact.
    The irony is that it's also a H&S issue if I don't strim, because I'm maintaining visibility at a tricky junction.
  • I have a friend who has a dog in their terraced house. Needless to say it barks a lot. The Council have got involved as it's annoyed the neighbors that much. It's not just about being a flat.

    Does your dog bark or howl a lot when you're not around? If so, you may wish to reconsider. If my block was 'no dogs/pets' and a new owner moved in with a yapping dog, I'd be pretty pee'd off.
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