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a couple o questions about dos and donts in rental property
stolt
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if you have read an earlier thread about mine i had a probelm with a rental hat we were just about to start on, that seems that it is now sorte dout and were moving in on the 17th.
a couple of questions, were renting unfurnished, can i put my own curtains up, and shelves etc, are you allowed to drill into the walls etc.
I'm assuming that we have to get the telephone connected for our stay or will there be a connection?
sorry as i say never rented and i didnt want to ask the letting agency, might think i'm simple!!:eek:
i read a earlier thread about the tenant is responsible for the garden but only if the landlord provides tools for the job, is that always the case and if so as there is no shed where shall they be stored.
also upon signing the letting agreement (will be done on friday) should i ask to see a certificate to confirm the boiler has been check for carbon monoxide etc.
anything else i should be armed with, questions etc.
a couple of questions, were renting unfurnished, can i put my own curtains up, and shelves etc, are you allowed to drill into the walls etc.
I'm assuming that we have to get the telephone connected for our stay or will there be a connection?
sorry as i say never rented and i didnt want to ask the letting agency, might think i'm simple!!:eek:
i read a earlier thread about the tenant is responsible for the garden but only if the landlord provides tools for the job, is that always the case and if so as there is no shed where shall they be stored.
also upon signing the letting agreement (will be done on friday) should i ask to see a certificate to confirm the boiler has been check for carbon monoxide etc.
anything else i should be armed with, questions etc.
Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
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1) Curtains yes, curtain rails no
2) No holes - they will cost you dear
3) You will need to get a phone connected, you may need to pay a connection charge
4) No idea about the garden
5) The gas safety cert should be displayed in the property, near (normally on) the boiler."Mrs. Pench, you've won the car contest, would you like a triumph spitfire or 3000 in cash?" He smiled.
Mrs. Pench took the money. "What will you do with it all? Not that it's any of my business," he giggled.
"I think I'll become an alcoholic," said Betty.0 -
I rent from an agency, and we just get permission to do things in the flat.Happy to be happy0
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b*gger, typed a long message and it went off somewhere.
get anything you agree with agency or landlord IN WRITING
Guy - does the gas safety really have to be displayed? I thought this was in HMO's only. I give tenants a copy, but do i need a picture frame for it too?0 -
thanks, thats what i thought regarding the holes, i suppose theres no harm asking but i guess its unlikely that they will say yes.Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!0
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Garden - you will need to find out if you are liable for it particularly if it has part that allows communal access. Not all landlords who expect you to keep the garden reasonable provide tools. Likewise all landlords expect you to keep the floors clean but don't provide you with a vacuum cleaner or mop.
Drilling in walls- if there are no curtain tracks, curtain poles or blinds then it would be reasonable for you to put them up to avoid causing a nusiance to neighbours i.e. they don't want to see your naked butt. You will also probably get away with putting up a few picture hooks however most landlords won't think it's reasonable for you to drill into walls to put up shelves. As Guy said ask in writing and keep copies. If you get no reply which often happens then put up the curtains/blinds to protect your privacy and to avoid causing a nusiance AND write another letter stating why you have done this. Then buy flat pack shelves from IKEA or similar, and forget the picture hooks.
Gas Certificate- a was given a copy with loads of other information. It was never framed.
OP also make sure you know how the boiler and any other applicances work. Make sure the LA shows you how to operate them or that there is a manual for you to read. And please READ the manual before using the boiler/appliances.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
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Garden - you will need to find out if you are liable for it particularly if it has part that allows communal access. Not all landlords who expect you to keep the garden reasonable provide tools. Likewise all landlords expect you to keep the floors clean but don't provide you with a vacuum cleaner or mop.
Drilling in walls- if there are no curtain tracks, curtain poles or blinds then it would be reasonable for you to put them up to avoid causing a nusiance to neighbours i.e. they don't want to see your naked butt. You will also probably get away with putting up a few picture hooks however most landlords won't think it's reasonable for you to drill into walls to put up shelves. As Guy said ask in writing and keep copies. If you get no reply which often happens then put up the curtains/blinds to protect your privacy and to avoid causing a nusiance AND write another letter stating why you have done this. Then buy flat pack shelves from IKEA or similar, and forget the picture hooks.
Gas Certificate- a was given a copy with loads of other information. It was never framed.
OP also make sure you know how the boiler and any other applicances work. Make sure the LA shows you how to operate them or that there is a manual for you to read. And please READ the manual before using the boiler/appliances.
thanks, took that all on board, the LL is refurbishing the place so not sure what it will look like when its finished, the garden has no shed so i'm not sure where i would be expected to keep a mower without it rusting in the rain!!
the only other thing is that we have atv that fixes to the wall on a bracket, so not sure whether they will let me do that on not, otherwise it will ahve to be a stand.Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!0 -
if you have read an earlier thread about mine i had a probelm with a rental hat we were just about to start on, that seems that it is now sorte dout and were moving in on the 17th.
The new carpets, how was that resolved?a couple of questions, were renting unfurnished, can i put my own curtains up, and shelves etc, are you allowed to drill into the walls etc.
The LL should put curtain poles/tracks up and you use these. It may have curtains supplied, most do, but there's nothing to stop you using your own. I prefer to do that anyway as mine are washable and life's too short for dry cleaning IMO.
I would not make holes in the wall, if you really what to then get written permission first including agreement on what you have to do at the end, like fill holes in and repaint or leave the shelves in place. Depends on what the LL prefers. When you move out you will be very busy so hole filling is the last thing you will be wanting to do.I'm assuming that we have to get the telephone connected for our stay or will there be a connection?
If there was a BT line there before then you probably won't have to pay for connection, just ring BT and ask. If there wasn't a line then connection is about 125 pounds, I would not be happy to pay that as a tenant although you will probably be asked to. So ring BT and ask the LL/agent.sorry as i say never rented and i didnt want to ask the letting agency, might think i'm simple!!
It's OK to ask the agent, that's what they get paid for. They will not think you simple as each LL/property is different and comes with different things provided and different things that the LL allows. So ask and get confirmation in writing. The in writing part is essential to save any arguments later on as agents will not remember what they promised!i read a earlier thread about the tenant is responsible for the garden but only if the landlord provides tools for the job, is that always the case and if so as there is no shed where shall they be stored.
The LL may provide tools but for an unfurnished property they do not have to. That other thread had suggests what to do:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=540978also upon signing the letting agreement (will be done on friday) should i ask to see a certificate to confirm the boiler has been check for carbon monoxide etc.
Yes. They should give you a copy.anything else i should be armed with, questions etc.
Look out for that pesky section 21 notice requiring possession being served, if you get one make sure you know exactly what it means.
Look out for a section 213 which details how your deposit is protected, this should be given to you within 14 days of your handing over the deposit.
Read the whole agreement through carefully. I ask for a copy in advance so I have read it already, if you haven't done that then you could do so now.
Make absolutely sure you check the inventory throughly. Note any marks, stains, damage to everything, walls, carpets, doors, appliances. Note how clean things are. This is to protect your deposit as you will need to return the property in the SAME condition as it was at the start and will be charged for any discrepancies less fair wear and tear.0 -
One thing I've learnt is don't expect all landlords to be reasonable particularly when they can get an excuse to keep your deposit.the garden has no shed so i'm not sure where i would be expected to keep a mower without it rusting in the rain!!
If you don't have a shed or can't store the lawn mower anywhere, but are expected to keep the garden reasonable make sure you write to the landlord continually about this problem.
OP be aware that the neither the landlord or letting agent cannot legally force you to have the place professionally cleaned at the end of your tenancy. However they can ask you to have it cleaned to a professional standard this includes all soft furnishings. Therefore you need to prove you have done this i.e receipts for hiring equipment.
If you are not using the landlord's curtains make it clear in a note or letter to the landlord while you are renting the property that you are not using their curtains. (Do this when you are writing to ask about something else.) And keep a copy.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
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By displayed, I mean most places I've lived have had the safety cert in a plastic wallet on the boiler. Some places it's just been left on top."Mrs. Pench, you've won the car contest, would you like a triumph spitfire or 3000 in cash?" He smiled.
Mrs. Pench took the money. "What will you do with it all? Not that it's any of my business," he giggled.
"I think I'll become an alcoholic," said Betty.0 -
Thanks Guy, I was getting worried.
I put mine into a huge file with plastic individual pockets, together with instructions to all the appliances.
I do show tenants when they move in where this is, and also ask for new ones to be filed in the same place.
Very relieved that I don't have to go to Ikea to buy picture frames that match the kitchen cupboards!
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