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How much electricity is my fan/AC using?

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I'm having a bit of an argument with the bill payer at the moment, as he seems to think the small tower fan I use to keep cool is gobbling up electricity, and is in fact an AC unit.

The bottom of the device says the item uses 35W of electricity, which as I understand it, is pennies in the long run.

However, he doesn't buy it, and says it uses more power to cool the air etc.

How can I get to the bottom of this?
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  • Jonesya
    Jonesya Posts: 1,823 Forumite
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    You point out its only a fan and show him the label again.

    Alternatively you buy a plug in power monitor and prove what power it uses, they're not that expensive.
  • I suppose the thing is I don't know for a fact it's not an AC. Though I associate AC's with big tonne boxes that attach to windows. Plus he's an electrician so I tend to defer to him on this stuff. Though he's obviously capable of being wrong and I can't find any reason why it'd be lying about using 35W.

    Guess I'll try to find a way to measure the power use. Cheers.
  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 7,979 Forumite
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    There are some "air conditioning" units that are basically just a fan and a container of water. The evaporation of the water is supposed to produce a better cooling effect than the fan alone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • hd216
    hd216 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    As you've said, the label should state the maximum power draw - it could well be less than this during normal operation.

    Assuming you ran this thing 24x7x365:

    35w x 24 hours a day = 840 Wh
    840 / 1000 = 0.840 kWh
    0.840kWh x 365 days = 306.6 kWh per year

    Using a range of £0.12 to £0.18 pence per kWh this would cost £36.79 to £55.19 per year; and as I've said the above calculation is based on it running non stop for the whole year!
  • ariba10
    ariba10 Posts: 5,432 Forumite
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    A normal fan does not cool the air it just moves it.
    I used to be indecisive but now I am not sure.
  • psychic_teabag
    psychic_teabag Posts: 2,865 Forumite
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    edited 14 July 2016 at 10:11AM
    An AC can only cool something by transferring the heat somewhere else. Typically, a box outside. (Compare to a fridge, which transfers heat from inside to outside, via the radiator grill on the back.) Possibly by using the heat to warm up something else (such as some cold water you'd have to replace.

    What is the net effect of running a fridge with the door open ?
  • Clive_Woody
    Clive_Woody Posts: 5,938 Forumite
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    List the make and model of your fan and someone can verify if it is an AC unit of some kind or just a fan for blowing air around.
    "We act as though comfort and luxury are the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about” – Albert Einstein
  • Well, putting the model number into google results in nothing, it's a next tower fan.

    hxxp://i.imgur.com/smWwKEU.jpg

    Doesn't really look as if it's doing anything with water to me. looking into the back, it just seems like a motor for turning the fan.
  • chrisw
    chrisw Posts: 3,792 Forumite
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    https://i.imgur.com/smWwKEU.jpg

    It is a 35w fan, no more, no less.
  • PasturesNew
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    Yes, this is 35 watts, so it uses 1/30th of one unit of electricity per hour.

    1000 watts = 1 unit
    28 hours of continual usage at 35 watts = 1 unit

    Whatever the current price of electricity is, this will use 1 unit in 28 hours.

    1 unit is often 12-18p. MASSIVELY rounding it up would give you a cost, run continuously, of 20p per day, or £6/month. So, probably closer to £2-3/month for what you're doing.

    I suspect they assume it's 1000 watts, which is what one'd normally expect/assume for any form of cooling/heating unit.

    The model appears to be a bionaire bmt01 (renamed Next). Looks identical and yours says "35 watts" on the unit, so they must be the same.

    Write down the maths for whoever is complaining.
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