Dangerous boilder in new house

Prothet_of_Doom

Spies wrote: »

Why can't you just get the flu repaired? Surely it doesn't require a completely new system?

At worst the boiler is in the wrong position and wants moving to a better location, and a compliant flue installing. An afternoon's work for a Gas Safe Technician ? £300 ?
Or maybe it just needs a compliant flue installing ? £150 ?
Or maybe it just needs a service as it has no history. £50 ?

To the OP, get a grip. You could have asked for a gas safety check to be done. before exchange (at your cost). I pay £45 for it including a service for my rental.
I don't get into service contracts with gas boilers. A new boiler is about £800. Plus about £300 fitting. I get them serviced yearly. When I add up the savings over the years of not paying a service contract, I think I'm quids in.

Prothet_of_Doom

missprice wrote: »

I agree with everything else in this thread, but I cannot be the only person to live with a GS engineer who is also fully qualified electrician (plus HVAC, refrigeration , etc etc)

Plus OP said gas safety guy which implies GS registration

In other countries the title ENGINEER is protected like Doctor. Do you mean Technician ? I'm not decrying what a good technician can do, or demeaning the training and experience they have, but Not an Engineer as Defined by the UK Engineering Council.

In 1960, the Conference of Engineering Societies of Western Europe and the United States of America defined "professional engineer" as follows:
A professional engineer is competent by virtue of his/her fundamental education and training to apply the scientific method and outlook to the analysis and solution of engineering problems. He/she is able to assume personal responsibility for the development and application of engineering science and knowledge, notably in research, design, construction, manufacturing, superintending, managing and in the education of the engineer. His/her work is predominantly intellectual and varied and not of a routine mental or physical character. It requires the exercise of original thought and judgement and the ability to supervise the technical and administrative work of others. His/her education will have been such as to make him/her capable of closely and continuously following progress in his/her branch of engineering science by consulting newly published works on a worldwide basis, assimilating such information and applying it independently. He/she is thus placed in a position to make contributions to the development of engineering science or its applications. His/her education and training will have been such that he/she will have acquired a broad and general appreciation of the engineering sciences as well as thorough insight into the special features of his/her own branch. In due time he/she will be able to give authoritative technical advice and to assume responsibility for the direction of important tasks in his/her branch.



Just a little bug bear of mine. sorry. :rotfl:

missprice

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

In other countries the title ENGINEER is protected like Doctor. Do you mean Technician ? I'm not decrying what a good technician can do, or demeaning the training and experience they have, but Not an Engineer as Defined by the UK Engineering Council.

In 1960, a
a little bug bear of mine. sorry. :rotfl:

No worries but even gas safe call them engineers
Look on the website, "engineer login" and "find an engineer" are two places.

Engineer login being for the GS registered engineer and find an engineer for people who need an expert in the area.

Pandilex

Sorry to hear your situation. If it's any consolation this is pretty normal for house buying... the boiler worked fine in my house and had a service history etc. then a few months later it broke and I had to pay £2000 for a replacement to be installed.

I had some money put aside for this, it is a bummer, but it's par for the course - don't let it ruin the experience of your new house!

If there's one thing I've learned it's that other people are total muppets when it comes to their house. The number of small easily fixable issues with the house was off the charts, how someone could have lived with them for 3 years is completely beyond me.

I read somewhere on here about them saying expect to have to fix 10 other things before you're able to fix the thing you actually need to fix due to the condition the previous occupiers will have left the place in, and it was so true...

TBagpuss

It's very frustrating, but unfortunately, as previous posters have said, you don't have any come back against your sellers, solicitor or surveyor.

The sellers were asked about service records and said they didn't have them, which is likely true (presumably if it had been serviced, the issue would have been discovered sooner)
The survey recommended that there was a gas survey - which put the ball firmly in your court to decide whether that was something you wanted. You chose not to have one.

Your solicitor has never been to the house and it is not their job to tell you what investigations to have done.

At this point, the best thing to do is to get a second opinion from a different gs safe engineer / technician, and get quotes for remedying the problem. If the flue is the only issue then adding / extending the flue is unlikely to be a major job. If there are other issues with the installation then it may be more expensive but will need to be done.

Lorian

For the sake of clarity - can you post two pictures, one of the boiler including the flue, and one in the loft showing what comes in to the loft from the boiler? Just so we can be sure who is right and wrong on what is or might be the problem?

Prothet_of_Doom

missprice wrote: »

No worries but even gas safe call them engineers
Look on the website, "engineer login" and "find an engineer" are two places.

Engineer login being for the GS registered engineer and find an engineer for people who need an expert in the area.

I'll pass on that information to the Engineering council and ask them why I pay to be a member.

Marvel1

Sorry to say but your own fault for not having the boiler checked before - a surveyor would not check and would advise not checked.

Pixie5740

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

I'll pass on that information to the Engineering council and ask them why I pay to be a member.

So that we can put more letters after our name...?

It's not really that different to folk like Gillian McKeith who seems to have received some kind of qualification after collecting tokens off boxes of quinoa going around calling herself Doctor.

Niv

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

I'll pass on that information to the Engineering council and ask them why I pay to be a member.

The one that bugs me is 'organic' food. Is food not labelled as organic inorganic?

Does my head in lol...little things

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