THE Prepping thread - a new beginning :)

Doveling

Cooltrikerchick - has the landscape in your area been altered in some way or built on to cause the flooding? Drainage ditches blocked?
Good that you have a standby plan for your livestock but hope that you never need it.:)

GQ - I thought food could be left out for up to four hours ( for example in a buffet) but then it had to be destroyed not
re-refridgerated. There are different timings for hot and cold foods and hot foods have to be continually kept at a certain temperature to stop the bacteria etc. from increasing.

I'm currently volunteering for a small charity. They are desperately short of volunteers but it has taken nearly twelve months for three of us to jump through sufficient hoops to please the powers that be.
Some days it has felt like they just want you to give up and go away!

When people start asking how does that fit with the charitable group and not how does that fit with the people the charity is meant to serve, things have gone wrong somewhere

Grumpy old woman mode
Funeral today and I could not sleep.

maryb

Thanks for the clarification, Mila. But even if he is actually one of the good guys in trying to make it legal, it shouldn't be potentially illegal in the first place, surely?

westcoastscot

Thanks for the warm welcome - Mar often think of you too - Maryb hadn't thought of that! knitting is what I (used) to do in odd moments, and whilst relaxing - kind of mindless but focussed iykwim. I need to concentrate for crochet still! Greyqueen yes still have all more walls lined with books, and still the most effective insulation ever - i've been re-reading them of late which i'm enjoying. Keeps the neighbour noise down too now we're in a terraced house, which is very welcome on one side!
Have a good day - I'm working 10 - 3 now (have trimmed my work hours to 30, different employer but still human-rights based).
WCS

milasavesmoney

maryb wrote: »

Thanks for the clarification, Mila. But even if he is actually one of the good guys in trying to make it legal, it shouldn't be potentially illegal in the first place, surely?

I certainly don't think it should be, but when you get federal/international entities like FEMA or the Red Cross etc involved it can get really tricky. I think that's what this legislator is trying to get clarified in state law and thus avoid any problems.
For example during these floods a country sheriff stopped by to visit displaced people at a Red Cross shelter. He probably knew most of them. He went around to different families and listened to their stories, comforting them as they cried and prayed with them. The Red Cross ordered him to leave because he was praying with them and that's against their rules. He was shocked as were the people staying in the shelter. He complied but later said it was really a sad thing that these people could not pray together in a shelter.

fuddle

I have to jump through a few charity hoops too at the minute doveling. They won't allow me to go back to volunteer until my GP writes a letter documenting that I am fit enough to undertake all roles in my job description. My GP has said no, I know myself better than he does and if I say I am ready to volunteer again that is enough. An hour and half I waited for that appointment. They now want me make a new appointment to ask him to write a letter privately because their insurance needs it. I have refused this morning unfortunately. Doctor's appointments are like gold dust here and to be honest he was sharp with me the first time.

Unfortunately I have had to say to the powers that be this morning that I am available to volunteer, give me a call when you would like my help. I don't think there's anything else I can do. I would be very sad if they didn't ask me back because of insurance red tape.

Cheapskate

fuddle wrote: »

37 fit and healthy with pneumonia and fluid on both lungs in the summer. I needed 4 different antibiotics to help shift it (fluid still there on one side) and constant oxygen for 5 days.

I've been tested for everything imaginable to try to find out why. The medical profession don't know and I don't know why.

My point being that it's likely I could be dead by now had it not been for the antibiotics. This atypical pneumonia is bigger than any soap or anti bacterial spray and it's put the fear of God into me because I am clueless how it happened so clueless how to prevent it. For a prepper that bliddy annoying!

So sorry you've been so poorly, fuddle, sincerely hope you're on the mend now! A friend of mine had pneumonia last year, schoolteacher, late 30s, no one else at school had it, or anyone she knew. Ended up in hospital for a few weeks, all the drugs and minor surgery, and like fuddle no one knew how or where - she's very fit, eats well, doesn't smoke and rarely drinks - mystery!

A xo

Living_proof

Cheapskate wrote: »

So sorry you've been so poorly, fuddle, sincerely hope you're on the mend now! A friend of mine had pneumonia last year, schoolteacher, late 30s, no one else at school had it, or anyone she knew. Ended up in hospital for a few weeks, all the drugs and minor surgery, and like fuddle no one knew how or where - she's very fit, eats well, doesn't smoke and rarely drinks - mystery!

A xo

I have to say I daily see young people spitting. A lot of them are from different cultures where it may not be seen as a health hazard. I remember as a child it was drummed in to you not to do it because TB was still on the prowl. I think there should be stringent laws about it frankly.

thriftwizard

Oh dear, Fuddle, take good care of yourself! Your health is so important, but your doctor's attitude is - out of order. I know ours charge for letters; I don't like it but I can see why they have to do it when there are so many people having to jump through so many ridiculous, obstructive hoops. But he certainly didn't need to be sharp...

moneyistooshorttomention

I did read recently that pneumonia can be infectious - which was a fact that surprised (and horrified) me. So that will be why "doctor not allowing to go back to work until documented as fit enough" and employers (even of the voluntary variety) need to cover their backs and be able to say "They gave us a doctors letter saying they were fit enough to return to work" and any employer will rely upon a doctors judgement before letting someone back to work/volunteering.

I've certainly felt more than a little nervous subsequently when I found someone that had just had pneumonia and didnt seem fully recovered to me was "out and about" and near me. So, in fairness, a doctors first responsibility will be to protect everyone else and, after that, to deal with the patient concerned. Doctors do have to bear in mind the health of the community as a whole first and will need to weigh up whether a person who says they feel well is well clear of any risk of passing anything on to anyone else - rather than getting worried about their job/getting bored at home/etc.

I know if the person recovering from pneumonia had passed it on to me - one of my first questions would be as to who their doctor was and I would have been in touch with them (ie because they'd allowed them to go "out and about" whilst not yet fully fit/101% guaranteed as non-infectious). Obviously a lot of people have frailer than usual immune systems - eg some more elderly people.

fuddle

Pneumonia isn't contagious. The germs that cause pneumonia are contagious - around 30 different organisms - and it's these that over power the immune system resulting in infected air sacs that fill with fluid.

The germs that cause pneumonia to occur are everywhere. A person who recovered from pneumonia over two weeks is no more contagious than the snotty little kid down the street.

My consultant and GP have no problem with me going back to whatever role I feel fit for. My point being that the GP didn't see any reason why he should be involved in insurance red tape. I believe they stopped getting so involved in 2010.