Legal action launched re Article 50

wotsthat

Funny really considering how the lack of democracy in the EU was the most common made up reason for voting leave.

I reckon this legal action is close to frivolous and government can invoke article 50 but it's good to see Little England sweat.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Funny really considering how the lack of democracy in the EU was the most common made up reason for voting leave.

I reckon this legal action is close to frivolous and government can invoke article 50 but it's good to see Little England sweat.

one would hope you wish the best for all the people of the UK: you're not toxic toasties after all.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

one would hope you wish the best for all the people of the UK: you're not toxic toasties after all.

Yes, even the non-native born.

Daniel54

wotsthat wrote: »

Funny really considering how the lack of democracy in the EU was the most common made up reason for voting leave.

I reckon this legal action is close to frivolous and government can invoke article 50 but it's good to see Little England sweat.

From my reading on the subject,it doesn't appear to be frivolous at all.The argument appears to be that only Parliament can make or repeal our laws,not Government.A Prime Minister can bind his Government but cannot bind Parliament.But he or she has a Royal Prerogative to act without the consent of Parliament,most commonly with regard to foreign affairs

As usual,various legal experts disagree on this and it seems entirely sensible to have this sorted out in a formal legal judgement before rather than after Article 50 has been triggered.

The attached article is very informative

https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/06/27/nick-barber-tom-hickman-and-jeff-king-pulling-the-article-50-trigger-parliaments-indispensable-role/

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Yes, even the non-native born.

that's what 'all the people of the UK' means.

antrobus

Rinoa wrote: »

According to Guido one of the businesses behind this action is Zoopla.

And who owns Zoopla? The Daily Mail.

The Daily Mail does not own Zoopla. Zoopla Property Group Plc is listed on the LSE. The Daily Mail and General Trust may well be the largest shareholder with a 31.32% stake, but it does not 'own' it.

And I'm not sure what significance that would be given that, whilst the Daily Mail was indeed 'leave', the Mail on Sunday was very much 'remain'.

wotsthat

Daniel54 wrote: »

From my reading on the subject,it doesn't appear to be frivolous at all.The argument appears to be that only Parliament can make or repeal our laws,not Government.A Prime Minister can bind his Government but cannot bind Parliament.But he or she has a Royal Prerogative to act without the consent of Parliament,most commonly with regard to foreign affairs

Don't tell them that Daniel - they're already having panic attacks.

No laws need to be repealed at the point article 50 is invoked by the government.

Parliament would need to repeal various laws but if we've left the EU it would be moot if they didn't. The statutes would just be redundant and be tidied up at a later date like the laws that require carriages to carry a bale of straw when crossing London Bridge.

We'll see soon enough hopefully.

antrobus

wotsthat wrote: »

....I reckon this legal action is close to frivolous and government can invoke article 50 but it's good to see Little England sweat.

It does seem to be massively premature.

All that has happened so far is that our much loved leader has decided to stand down and that it will be down to his replacement to decide when to pull the trigger. Which it will be. There have been no prenouncements regarding exactly how that will be accomplished, and I imagine that there is a civil service team working on that right now.

Rinoa

antrobus wrote: »

The Daily Mail does not own Zoopla. Zoopla Property Group Plc is listed on the LSE. The Daily Mail and General Trust may well be the largest shareholder with a 31.32% stake, but it does not 'own' it.

Fair enough. But if you own 31% you almost certainly control it.

Daily Mail has endorsed Theresa May, which is strange considering she was in favour of remain. But tabloids often go with who their readers wishes whilst owners may prefer a different outcome.

kinger101

HornetSaver wrote: »

Is that written down in the constitution?

Indeed, are you seriously trying to have a single person, on either side of the vote, to believe that the referendum was fought, inside or outside Parliament, on the basis that the EU does not impact upon domestic policy?

I presenting the argument many QCs are putting forward. Some disagree. Like I've said already, if it was clear cut, it wouldn't be a matter for the court. So you stop acting like a know-it-all.