Weed Control

glasgowdan

50Twuncle wrote: »

Glyphosphate is a poison - that is my source !!!
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2014/06/11/lawn-chemical-poisoning.aspx
is another source
Why would you want to risk your pets health ?

Sorry but that "source" is laughable. Glyphosate is less harmful than manure! Your thinking has no evidence, no science to it at all. If you do some research instead of closing you eyes and ears to the facts you'll learn a lot.

50Twuncle

glasgowdan wrote: »

Sorry but that "source" is laughable. Glyphosate is less harmful than manure! Your thinking has no evidence, no science to it at all. If you do some research instead of closing you eyes and ears to the facts you'll learn a lot.

So it won't kill weeds either.....

getmore4less

LadyDee wrote: »

I have some pretty well established weeds outside my property, strip of ground covered with stones/gravel, no weed control fabric underneath.

I was minded to just rake all the stones up, dig up the weeds, lay some fabric and replace the stones. Unfortunately, I've found that this strip of ground consists mainly of totally un-diggable chunks of rock, with just enough soil sprinkled on top to give weeds more than a fighting chance!

So I need some really effective weed killer which is not going to cost me a fortune - very important:)

Suggestions please ......

Once the weed killer has done it's job, it may still be worth taking off the gravel leveling(removing what you can), and laying a membrane and re covering, it won't top everything but will keep the worst away and anything that seeds in the gravel will be easy to pull out.

Davesnave

50Twuncle wrote: »

Glyphosphate is a poison - that is my source !!!
http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2014/06/11/lawn-chemical-poisoning.aspx
is another source
Why would you want to risk your pets health ?

You link to a site which names agro-chemicals and lawn treatments to back up your claim the glyphosate is poisonous to pets?

That doesn't make a lot of sense, since glyphosate is not a lawn care product, nor is it a selective broadleaf weedkiller for professional use on grass leys and amenity turf. That's what your link was concerned with.

Are we supposed to take you seriously?

Glyphosate is about the only chemical weedkiller still available to home gardeners, precisely because it has been tested and considered safer than the withdrawn alternatives.

You call it a poison, which is a wonderfully vague term, usually used by those who haven't a clue how it works.

At a very simple level, it interferes with a plant's ability to photosynthesise, starving it to death, which is why it takes a few weeks to 'work.' The poisons that used to be used, stayed active in the soil, sometimes for months, whereas glyphosate quickly breaks down. In fact it's possible to kill one grass crop and sow the seed for another at the exactly same time. That's how 'poisonous' it is in terms of residual damage or toxicity.

Davesnave

Joyful wrote: »

I use vinegar. It's killed all the weeds in my garden. You see after 24 hours they are starting to die and they are completely destroyed within the week. Much better than poison.

How do you make a distinction between vinegar and glyphosate if they both involve the disruption of a plant's metabolism?

One does it in a rather crude way, hence the quick result, and the other disrupts enzyme action in a more targeted manner, but either way, the plant dies.

What makes one a 'poison,' and the other, something benign?

Mojisola

Davesnave wrote: »

You call it a poison, which is a wonderfully vague term, usually used by those who haven't a clue how it works.

Especially as salt has been suggested as an alternative which is not only a 'chemical' :eek: but also a 'poison' if enough is consumed.

Dan83

I use glyphosate on weeds every time I cut the gardens.

It takes a while to work so if you buy it, I'd recommend pulling the weeds up the spraying, then spray every week or 2 to stop new weeds.

I buy it from a local allotment shop, it's £2 odd and makes up a gallon.

Mojisola

Dan83 wrote: »

I use glyphosate on weeds every time I cut the gardens.

It takes a while to work so if you buy it, I'd recommend pulling the weeds up the spraying, then spray every week or 2 to stop new weeds.

Glyphosate is spread through the plant from the leaves. If you pull up the weeds first and then spray the soil, you're wasting your money.