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Cameron was wrong to resign...

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  • westernpromise
    westernpromise Posts: 4,833 Forumite
    I'm confused. I keep hearing on the news that Prime Minister David Cameron has gone to Brussels to talk ... but didn't he resign a day or two ago?

    If he's still Prime Minister, then it's his job to start the process of leaving the EU, which includes invoking Article 50, as democratically voted by his electorate and as he said he would do.

    If he's not still Prime Minister, then he can just butt out and go to the back benches where all the non-cabinet MPs sit. I'm sure he has a deputy. That person should be going to Brussels etc.

    He's either still in the job, or he's not.

    He's working his notice.
  • discat11
    discat11 Posts: 537 Forumite
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    zarf2007 wrote: »

    In 2 years time when we are prospering and have global trade deals and the EU is a broken mess you remainers will owe us an engraved apology.

    The only way we will prosper is if half the country who didn't agree to leave work just as hard as those who did to fix this almighty screw up.
    Therefore no one will owe the quitters an apology, not by some margin.

    2 years time? I've heard of optimism but you must be on some strong medication there.
  • zarf2007
    zarf2007 Posts: 651 Forumite
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    discat11 wrote: »
    The only way we will prosper is if half the country who didn't agree to leave work just as hard as those who did to fix this almighty screw up.
    Therefore no one will owe the quitters an apology, not by some margin.

    2 years time? I've heard of optimism but you must be on some strong medication there.

    stop crying and move on, it gives me great pleasure to laugh at the remain losers.
  • discat11
    discat11 Posts: 537 Forumite
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    zarf2007 wrote: »
    stop crying and move on, it gives me great pleasure to laugh at the remain losers.

    I think you need to up your dose.
    ;)
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    zarf2007 wrote: »
    In 2 years time when we are prospering and have global trade deals and the EU is a broken mess you remainers will owe us an engraved apology.

    2 years.... its taken Canada 9 years to almost get to a deal with the EU.

    you're talking about getting dozens done in 2, good luck with that one.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Ok what I want
    -the UK parliament to make out laws, always accepting that international agreement do impose some restrictions
    -for immigration to be limited to the 10s of thousands
    -to trade as freely (i.e either low of zero tariffs) as possible with all countries of the world
    -to reduce non tariff barriers to trade again with all countries of the world
    Good luck with that.

    Not keen on TTIP as it stands but it's not agreed yet, I don't believe there is a real prospect of Turkey joining in the near future, Greece should have left Euro.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Groovy. You won the vote but you still have no plan.


    what's the plan?
    seriously. W h a t i s t he p l a n ?

    What is the plan?

    What's the plan?

    Plan. What? Plan is what???

    Plan??? Explain.

    the plan will be available is about 6 weeks although deadlines are sometime missed
  • zarf2007
    zarf2007 Posts: 651 Forumite
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    2 years.... its taken Canada 9 years to almost get to a deal with the EU.

    you're talking about getting dozens done in 2, good luck with that one.

    who's taking about the EU, what about India, china etc?
  • looknohands
    looknohands Posts: 390 Forumite
    zarf2007 wrote: »
    yes and follow the other sheep in this country who are content with things as they are even though the EU screw us over at every opportunity.

    In 2 years time when we are prospering and have global trade deals and the EU is a broken mess you remainers will owe us an engraved apology.

    I voted remain, I understand the concerns with the EU democratically and 'taking back control' I agree would be great. However the only vote for me as a business owner was remain because of those experts advising on economy. Today Thomas Picketty has also expressed his concern on Brexit, really it's looking like a short-term economic disaster.

    You might have seen Branson commenting on how his companies have lost 1/3 of their value maybe you brushed it off... as these companies are big businesses and can survive that, they will be here in 2 years time when your engraved apology is due and they've recovered fully.

    However today saw my business loose it's first substantial contract due to the Brexit turmoil causing a clients costs for a project in Europe to sky-rocket. We and a few other UK suppliers were cut loose from this engagement. Short-term I can manage one hit like this, however a few more of these over the coming months could spell trouble,

    My business might not be here to present your engraved apology!

    I know many people who aren't business owners wont really see much in this but it is my livelihood and also the livelihood of my suppliers, my business has been growing for the past five years, but this has really thrown a spanner in the works.

    There needed to have been a short-term plan, things need to move quicker to steady the ship.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    However today saw my business loose it's first substantial contract due to the Brexit turmoil causing a clients costs for a project in Europe to sky-rocket. We and a few other UK suppliers were cut loose from this engagement. Short-term I can manage one hit like this, however a few more of these over the coming months could spell trouble,

    why caused your clients costs to sky-rocket?
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