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Deutsche Bank toxic derivative losses
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Bloomberg sum it all up here,
Defying gravity
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-25/deutsche-bank-s-ritchie-in-fight-to-defy-gravity-as-exit-loomsNothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
DB can only get away with Defying gravity for so long
Gravity may finally be catching up........
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-25/deutsche-bank-s-ritchie-in-fight-to-defy-gravity-as-exit-loomsNothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
DB going down will bring down the entire global financial system
This is the definition of a too big to fail bank, if they fail then the entire global system goes down. And DB are a too big to fail bank that are failing
They have the rest of world over a barrel.
https://www.ft.com/content/5f70594e-9463-11e9-b7ea-60e35ef678d2
When you own a few million it’s your problem. When you owe trillions it’s other people’s problem.
A trillion here a trillion there and pretty soon your talking about real money.Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
It wasn’t only Deutsche Bank that has been caught for crimes with precious metal price manipulation
The criminals pay a small fine or settlement and the criminal act continues
Another bank has been caught involved in similar crimes
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-25/merrill-lynch-caught-criminally-manipulating-precious-metals-market-thousands-times
And yet the crime in progress continues.Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
Deutsche Bank staff are bracing themselves for one of the most severe job culls in banking since Lehman Brothers collapsed a decade ago
https://www.ft.com/content/5a0388e2-9f20-11e9-9c06-a4640c9feebb
All the DB cheerleaders won’t have anything to say, there are so many similarities to Lehman brosNothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
Deutsche Bank staff are bracing themselves for one of the most severe job culls in banking since Lehman Brothers collapsed a decade ago
https://www.ft.com/content/5a0388e2-9f20-11e9-9c06-a4640c9feebb
All the DB cheerleaders won’t have anything to say, there are so many similarities to Lehman bros
Just for once, you may be right.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-05/expect-lehman-style-scenes-outside-deutsche-bank-offices-monday-mass-firings-begin0 -
Just for once, you may be right.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-05/expect-lehman-style-scenes-outside-deutsche-bank-offices-monday-mass-firings-begin
There are a lot of people going to be right about the collapse of DB, there wil be Leham scenes just like in the film The big short.
Everybody remembers that scene where all the employees are walking out of the building with their boxes from their desks. That is what it will be like come Monday morningNothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
DB is so big, it can not fail fact.
If it fails the entire global financial system will fail.
Yet it is failing.
The question I have asked many times is what can be done?
The derivative book is around FIFTY TRILLION, if this unraveled it will spell doom for the entire financial system.
Can anybody answer the question, how can they stop this too big to fail bank taking down the entire global system?
A bail in is not enough,Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
Until you accept that the $50tn nominal value is not the correct amount to be using to assess the risk, nobody can have a sensible conversation with you about DB.Notional numbers in derivatives are among financial markets’ most abused statistics. The industry used it to inflate its own importance and size of its market, and was aided by a media looking for sensational figures. It is not a measure of actual market or counterparty credit risk. Most swaps positions are netted off and the real number of affected contracts is much lower, perhaps in the billions.0
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Until you accept that the $50tn nominal value is not the correct amount to be using to assess the risk, nobody can have a sensible conversation with you about DB.
https://www.ft.com/content/e47d1828-7a0d-11e8-8e67-1e1a0846c475
Again somebody is trying to distract.
Fist of all who said the fifty trillion is the nominal value to asses the risk? FT doesn’t say that.
The facts are the derivative book of DB is around Fifty Trillion, this is an enormous problem. You can twist it and spin anyway you want, it 50 Trillion is a big number,
Why try distract with nonsense
Tomorrow there will be scenes like in the film the big short outside DB and so many employees collect their personal belongings
The DB cheerleaders are quiet of late..........Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0
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