Deutsche Bank toxic derivative losses

westernpromise

AG47 is on a mission to persuade DB stockholders that their stake is worthless, one stockholder at a time.

AG47

DB is one of the biggest stories in the financial world right now, why is is not front page news?

chucknorris

MobileSaver wrote: »

So 12 months went by, then 24, now 30 months since you guaranteed DB would collapse... could you have been any more wrong?

If you guarantee something, and it fails, surely a claim can be made, what was his forfeit?

AG47

The DB cheerleaders are really clutching at straws now

What will the share price be tomorrow when markets open?

Especially now they have been downgraded again

chucknorris

AG47 wrote: »

The DB cheerleaders are really clutching at straws now

What will the share price be tomorrow when markets open?

Especially now they have been downgraded again

Are you ever going to answer my question of who the DB cheerleaders are? I guess not, because we both (and just about everybody else) know that they only exist in your head, and I strongly suspect that they are not very lonely.

AG47

chucknorris wrote: »

Are you ever going to answer my question of who the DB cheerleaders are? I guess not, because we both (and just about everybody else) know that they only exist in your head, and I strongly suspect that they are not very lonely.

The DB cheerleaders are trying to change their tune for sure, but there are plenty trying desperately to defend DB or change the narrative.

Do you agree with me that DB are in a very bad way? And they are a too big to fail bank, meaning if they fail then the big dominos will knock over the big banks which will trickle down to the smaller banks all around the world?

westernpromise

Give us say three examples of "DB cheerleaders" who "are trying to change their tune...trying desperately to defend DB or change the narrative".

Also, what's the "narrative" that these "DB cheerleaders" want to change?

Kentish_Dave

The ironic thing is that DB actually are in some trouble, but it’s over their Tier 1 capital ratio as they have not reacted as well as other banks to the regulatory changes that have upped capital requirements.

This has absolutely nothing to do with “toxic” derivatives of course, and especially not to do with the total notional.

westernpromise

Kentish_Dave wrote: »

The ironic thing is that DB actually are in some trouble, but it’s over their Tier 1 capital ratio as they have not reacted as well as other banks to the regulatory changes that have upped capital requirements.

This has absolutely nothing to do with “toxic” derivatives of course, and especially not to do with the total notional.

There are some things the Germans aren't very good at running properly: commodity firms (Metallgesellschaft, OW Bunker), banks, wars. Surprisingly, it's looking like they don't know how to run car companies either.

chucknorris

AG47 wrote: »

The DB cheerleaders are trying to change their tune for sure, but there are plenty trying desperately to defend DB or change the narrative.

Do you agree with me that DB are in a very bad way? And they are a too big to fail bank, meaning if they fail then the big dominos will knock over the big banks which will trickle down to the smaller banks all around the world?

Are you aware that you have a severe personality disorder? Why on earth do you imagine that DB have cheerleaders, yes on course the Denver Broncos have cheerleaders, can you really not see the difference?

Do really you get out of bed in the morning and perform some sort of dance routine, cheer leading a financial institution?