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Deutsche Bank toxic derivative losses

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  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    The DB cheerleaders never cease to amaze me.

    It's not the fact that they ignore the criminal activity, the second largest derivative bubble after the US government , or even the fact that the share price is going down the toilet now that confidence he gone, The real surprise is the fact the nobody can answer the question of what will happen when a too big to fail bank fails? Even after the bailing, it's still not enough.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • Kentish_Dave
    Kentish_Dave Posts: 842 Forumite
    AG47 wrote: »
    The DB cheerleaders never cease to amaze me.

    It's not the fact that they ignore the criminal activity, the second largest derivative bubble after the US government , or even the fact that the share price is going down the toilet now that confidence he gone, The real surprise is the fact the nobody can answer the question of what will happen when a too big to fail bank fails? Even after the bailing, it's still not enough.
    I don’t see anyone being a cheerleader for DB, I just see people patiently trying to explain where you are getting confused on certain points and you completely refusing to engage with the pertinent points made.

    For example, people have pointed out to you a few times that the notional on derivatives tells you nothing about he mark-to-market of the deals, or the economic exposure, yet you resolutely will not take this on board.

    Similarly you seem to put your fingers in your ears and close your eyes when people mention collateralisation or capital ratios.

    This is why I liken you to other conspiracy theorists, you will not or cannot engage in adult conversation on the subject.

    Do you even realise that you are doing this or that that’s why people are laughing at you?

    If you have decent evidence, produce it and debate it. Argument by assertion is child-like and you’d be well served to lean to move on from that.
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    AG47 wrote: »
    DB total risk is increasing, there is no way out.

    The only question remaining is what will happen after a too big to fail bank fails?

    Yes they may well do a bail in but it's still not enough.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TzOyVp_nLEE

    Did you even watch this ?????

    Who is putting their fingers in their ears now?

    I don’t see anyone being a cheerleader for DB, I just see people patiently trying to explain where you are getting confused on certain points and you completely refusing to engage with the pertinent points made.

    For example, people have pointed out to you a few times that the notional on derivatives tells you nothing about he mark-to-market of the deals, or the economic exposure, yet you resolutely will not take this on board.

    Similarly you seem to put your fingers in your ears and close your eyes when people mention collateralisation or capital ratios.

    This is why I liken you to other conspiracy theorists, you will not or cannot engage in adult conversation on the subject.

    Do you even realise that you are doing this or that that’s why people are laughing at you?

    If you have decent evidence, produce it and debate it. Argument by assertion is child-like and you’d be well served to lean to move on from that.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • smipsy
    smipsy Posts: 219 Forumite
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    well, at least now we have a date.

    looking forward to September then!
  • Kentish_Dave
    Kentish_Dave Posts: 842 Forumite
    Posting a link to a YouTube link is not engaging in an adult discussion. I’m out.
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    All the DB cheerleaders throwing in the towel, I'm not surprised.

    It's now over 90% looking like DB is going to be the next Leyman Bros shock

    The only question now is how will systematic financial collapse be avoided this time?

    GFC 1.0 from Layman shock almost crashed the entire financial system but was narrowly avoided by creating huge amounts of currency out of thin air to bail out the banksters and drop interest rates several percent. They hoped they could rein in all that currency that flooded the system and put interest rates back up to normal sometime in the future.

    Here we are 11 years later and the currency supplies are not able to be reined in, infact they are still expanding,

    And instead of putting interest rates back up to normal so they have room to lower them again, they are still at near zero!!!!
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,793 Forumite
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    AG47 wrote: »
    All the DB cheerleaders throwing in the towel, I'm not surprised.

    Who are the DB cheerleaders? Do you not think it is possible that you are the only one who actually cares?
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  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Who are the DB cheerleaders?
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    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    edited 3 June 2019 at 9:22AM
    I started this thread a long time ago that DB were in trouble and predicted they were going to be the next Lahman bank too big to fail

    Many were cheering for them, no they are not in trouble, they could never go down.

    These re the DB cheerleaders nd now they have been proved wrong they hve changed tune, OK DB could be. Too big to fil bank tht actually fails but it won't be tht big deal.

    The governments could do what they did last time nd Crete trillions of unit of currency out of thin air nd give to the banksters so they can ll keep having huge bonuses even though they are making huge losses.

    Oh nd lower interest rates several percent, even though we are at net zero.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    5.91EUR

    Gone under the €6 deadline, this is it folks!!!!!!!
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
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