DLA and carers allowance

nannytone_2

GwylimT wrote: »

Just because you can manage it doesn't mean everyone can. It does make personal care harder as he doesn't know when he is clean, as a male he is also at high risk of UTI if he toilets sitting down, so he needs to stand to urinate. As he is 87 bending over to feel for the toilet bowl to empty a jug is quite difficult for him, so it isn't worth the risk of falling over.

The oven is always in the same place and chicken always takes twenty five minutes, so really the same could be said for any simple task. He can however dice anything vegetable perfectly.

what a silly comparison to make.

if you put an uncleaned chicken into a cold oven, then yes it would apply.
but that isn't what you do when you cook

GwylimT

tomtontom wrote: »

How is an 87 year old claiming CA?

I find the notion of someone with Parkinsons caring for someone else for 35 hours a week very difficult to comprehend. It's a horribly debilitating condition.

Parkinsons doesn't impact on your sight, so its fairly easy for her to be his eyes for everyday tasks he needs to do. Like telling him when food is cooked, reading use by dates, telling him which clothes can go in which basket, even simple things such as putting on a TV show for him. As he has a wide range of medication she can make sure he is taking the right thing at the right time as he struggles to use those prepackaged tablet boxes.

Its not instantly dibiliating, she can talk, eat, walk with support, write, she only needed to give up driving a few months ago as her grip has deterioriated a little. She does OAP yoga.

GwylimT

nannytone wrote: »

what a silly comparison to make.

if you put an uncleaned chicken into a cold oven, then yes it would apply.
but that isn't what you do when you cook

He uses the oven just fine on his own, his issues are with using the hob. He roasts either a chicken or ham joint every sunday on his own. He can prepare all the veg on his own, but can't steam it without borrowing some eyes. Just because two people are blind it doesn't mean they can only do the same tasks.

tomtontom

GwylimT wrote: »

Parkinsons doesn't impact on your sight, so its fairly easy for her to be his eyes for everyday tasks he needs to do. Like telling him when food is cooked, reading use by dates, telling him which clothes can go in which basket, even simple things such as putting on a TV show for him. As he has a wide range of medication she can make sure he is taking the right thing at the right time as he struggles to use those prepackaged tablet boxes.

Its not instantly dibiliating, she can talk, eat, walk with support, write, she only needed to give up driving a few months ago as her grip has deterioriated a little. She does OAP yoga.

Yet it is sufficiently debilitating that she herself needs 35 hours a week of care?

You're not doing a great job of justifying why either of them qualify for CA.

GwylimT

tomtontom wrote: »

Yet it is sufficiently debilitating that she herself needs 35 hours a week of care?

You're not doing a great job of justifying why either of them qualify for CA.

Yes it is, it isn't my job to justify anything, I'm not the one awarding them attendance allowance.

FBaby

Yes it is, it isn't my job to justify anything, I'm not the one awarding them attendance allowance.

But that is the problem, CA has to be the one and only benefit that you don't have to justify any ability to claim. You don't have evidence that you are capable of providing 35 hours care, and that's because how would you?

I think CA was set up with very good intentions, that is for people who genuinely had no choice but to give up work to care for a love one full-time, however, once again, it is abused and more abused with claimants having picked up on the fact that they don't have to evidence anything to just get the money come into their bank account regularly.

So now you have people retired who should be looking after themselves anyway but who claim because an addition £120 won't do any harm. Or those SAHM who have made a choice not to work anyway, but hey again. £120 will do nicely thank you.

nannytone_2

FBaby wrote: »

But that is the problem, CA has to be the one and only benefit that you don't have to justify any ability to claim. You don't have evidence that you are capable of providing 35 hours care, and that's because how would you?

I think CA was set up with very good intentions, that is for people who genuinely had no choice but to give up work to care for a love one full-time, however, once again, it is abused and more abused with claimants having picked up on the fact that they don't have to evidence anything to just get the money come into their bank account regularly.

So now you have people retired who should be looking after themselves anyway but who claim because an addition £120 won't do any harm. Or those SAHM who have made a choice not to work anyway, but hey again. £120 will do nicely thank you.

it wouldn't be £120 a week, as CA is an overlapping benefit with the state pension.
at best it would be £60 something for carers premium ... but only if on a low household income and receiving pension credit

NLW

FBaby wrote: »

But that is the problem, CA has to be the one and only benefit that you don't have to justify any ability to claim. You don't have evidence that you are capable of providing 35 hours care, and that's because how would you?

I think CA was set up with very good intentions, that is for people who genuinely had no choice but to give up work to care for a love one full-time, however, once again, it is abused and more abused with claimants having picked up on the fact that they don't have to evidence anything to just get the money come into their bank account regularly.

So now you have people retired who should be looking after themselves anyway but who claim because an addition £120 won't do any harm. Or those SAHM who have made a choice not to work anyway, but hey again. £120 will do nicely thank you.

The £120 odd is for two claiming together.

missbiggles1

GwylimT wrote: »

Parkinsons doesn't impact on your sight, so its fairly easy for her to be his eyes for everyday tasks he needs to do. Like telling him when food is cooked, reading use by dates, telling him which clothes can go in which basket, even simple things such as putting on a TV show for him. As he has a wide range of medication she can make sure he is taking the right thing at the right time as he struggles to use those prepackaged tablet boxes.

Its not instantly dibiliating, she can talk, eat, walk with support, write, she only needed to give up driving a few months ago as her grip has deterioriated a little. She does OAP yoga.

For 35 hours a week?

Cyclamen

It is possible for one partner to claim for another when they live together.
My husband has taken reduced work hours so he can be with me ..i hate the term carer but thats what he does a lot of.. its different to the 'in sickness and in health' bit of our marriage but is still done with love.

He easily does the 35 hours and thats with me having some social services care. The CA amount is the equivalent value for 4 more hours paid partially from social services (we contribute to my care account) so i think CA can save the 'pot' a lot of money too.



The tasks that a partner/parent could do that count as caring in my view include, but i'm sure there are loads more

managing medications.. sorting dosset boxes/ measuring liquids in syringes/ prompting/ recording to make sure limits aren't exceeded.
more than half share of cooking/cleaning house tasks
pushing wheelchairs
bathroom help
showering help
fetching carrying - there is a lot of that when you ahve limited mobility
accompanying to medical appointments and filling in gaps, liasing with GP/pharmacy and managing all the appointments
physically moving person, arranging them in bed, picking them up of floor
supporting in social and activities
regular massage
getting in out bed, up down from chairs.
helping change clotehs when spills happen
maintaining equipment, researching new equipment (OT and wheelchair services only go so far)
overnight supervision
Day tiem supervision
repairs and maintenance of clothes, equipment thats is damaged due t disability.
coaxing moivation
managing mental health issues





I have been told my CAB I could claim carers for him as he is on PIP (his condition does not prevent any of above) however there is no way I do anything like 35 hours of 'carers job' rather than partners job so i havent applied and wont.

I would suggest for a week make a note of everything you do for the person that isnt part of a normal role as parent/partner/friend and see if the hours add up..