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Driver hits cyclist, left for dead. Let off in court.

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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 7 August 2016 at 8:02PM
    It was too lenient
    Johno100 is a car driving apologist and has been on here at every opportunity defending the bloke behind the wheel who has committed offences. it does nt matter how vile and dangerous the offence is, up will jump johno100 and give the car driver good backing. Say it slowly to yourself Johno "one hundred and fifty mph " ! even you must admit that that is taking the p**z, and not worth defending their actions. You have to be quite loopy or Jeremy Clarkson to be trying to say that "speed does nt kill..It does all the time... in 30 mphs zones, 50/60 limits and Mways . You have far less chance of avoiding accidents driving like Louis Hamilton.
    Stick to the Motoring forum Johno because us "push bikers " have a lot more sense than you..and by the way I m a 30,000 mile a year petrol head as well but without the slavish bias to car drivers breaking the laws which you possess.
  • esuhl
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    It was too lenient
    I know. It's incredible the mouth-foaming hysteria some petrol-heads get themselves into. I assume it's because Johno regularly commits serious crimes and is worried that clamping down on criminals will end his "right" to endanger other people's lives.
  • Johno100
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    It was too harsh
    esuhl wrote: »
    I know. It's incredible the mouth-foaming hysteria some petrol-heads get themselves into.

    The only mouth foaming hysteria on this thread is coming from you and a few of your fellow push bikers.

    You seem intent that this thread shouldn't deal in actual facts but should solely be here to list and condemn what you, Brake the Daily Mail consider to be un-duly lenient sentences passed on motorists, I get it.
  • Nasqueron
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    Johno100 wrote: »
    The only mouth foaming hysteria on this thread is coming from you and a few of your fellow push bikers.

    You seem intent that this thread shouldn't deal in actual facts but should solely be here to list and condemn what you, Brake the Daily Mail consider to be un-duly lenient sentences passed on motorists, I get it.

    You missed, in this example, Suffolk Police who also agreed it was too lenient

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Johno100
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    It was too harsh
    Nasqueron wrote: »
    You missed, in this example, Suffolk Police who also agreed it was too lenient

    I did see that but then you have to ask if they thought his actions were so serious and warranted a more severe penalty why wasn't he charged with Dangerous Driving? Or did they write him up for that only for the CPS to step in and downgrade it to speeding? None of us here know those answers and those that do aren't saying.
  • Nasqueron
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    Johno100 wrote: »
    I did see that but then you have to ask if they thought his actions were so serious and warranted a more severe penalty why wasn't he charged with Dangerous Driving? Or did they write him up for that only for the CPS to step in and downgrade it to speeding? None of us here know those answers and those that do aren't saying.

    The police put forward a recommendation, the CPS decide what to go with as you should know, the fact the police were as unhappy with the sentence as any right minded person would be suggest they weren't putting him through for a slap on the wrist.

    Robert Compton did 140 on the A9 and got a year ban
    Mert Tanay did 140mph on the M20 and got a three year ban + 50 hours community work
    Johnathon Christopher Booth did 150mph on the Northwich Bypass on a motorbike and got a year ban

    This guy's sentence is unduly lenient in every way possible, nobody with any sense would argue otherwise

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Johno100
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    It was too harsh
    Nasqueron wrote: »
    The police put forward a recommendation, the CPS decide what to go with as you should know, the fact the police were as unhappy with the sentence as any right minded person would be suggest they weren't putting him through for a slap on the wrist.

    So what recommendation did the police put forward Dangerous Driving or just speeding?
    Nasqueron wrote: »
    Robert Compton did 140 on the A9 and got a year ban
    Mert Tanay did 140mph on the M20 and got a three year ban + 50 hours community work
    Johnathon Christopher Booth did 150mph on the Northwich Bypass on a motorbike and got a year ban

    This guy's sentence is unduly lenient in every way possible, nobody with any sense would argue otherwise

    ALL three of those individuals were found guilty of DANGEROUS DRIVING, not simply speeding, can't you see the distinction?
  • esuhl
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    It was too lenient
    Johno100 wrote: »
    ALL three of those individuals were found guilty of DANGEROUS DRIVING, not simply speeding, can't you see the distinction?

    How can there be a distinction between "dangerous driving" and "driving at 84mph over the speed limit"?

    Why do you think speed limits exist?
  • Johno100 wrote: »

    ALL three of those individuals were found guilty of DANGEROUS DRIVING, not simply speeding, can't you see the distinction?

    At those kinds of speeds, I don't believe there is a distinction.
  • Johno100
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    edited 7 August 2016 at 6:20PM
    It was too harsh
    esuhl wrote: »
    How can there be a distinction between "dangerous driving" and "driving at 84mph over the speed limit"?

    You are asking the wrong person, ask the police and/or CPS why they went with speeding and not Dangerous Driving.

    It's a shame, for what ever reason, Brat hasn't deemed to grace us with his observations on this particular case.
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