Has CLAPTON swung your mind. IN or OUT

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

That's not following the logic - just making it more complicated.

Age seems a reasonable enough proxy for life expectancy. Anyone, say, 70 or over is very likely to be high priority for being protected whatever the outcome.

Perhaps, if that's unpalatable, younger people should get a higher vote weighting or maybe 16 year old should've got a say - they might well be in their sixties next time the question's asked.

I was light hearted responding to an idiot that posted

....and {above retirement age } will have less time available to reflect on their choice.

The young will have to repent at leisure.

clearly life expectancy must be the sole criteria although that doesn't exclude a life expectancy weighted methodology.

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I wouldn't vote the same way at 16, 18 or 21 as the way I do now in my early 30's.

Maybe but if youngsters voted they might feel more like they owned the result and make the most of it - even if their views changed with the passing of time.

There'd be a few less people moaning in 20 years time they didn't get a say.

BobQ

Has CLAPTON swung your mind. IN or OUT?

Yes, but then I woke up and realised I was dreaming.

Generali

youngbutwise wrote: »

I've also heard London is France's 6th biggest city from a French friend. I don't know where she got the info from but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

IIRC, the More or Less podcast debunked that.

tincans6

I have always been in the Remain camp, but every Leave person I talk to (this is normally in the pub, admittedly) can't shut up about it once they get started.

In fact, you start having a conversation, then they simply start talking at you despite your own best efforts to steer the conversation on to anything else.
As the drink takes hold, you know that the racist 'jokes' will be fired at you soon enough.

tincans6

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

We have enough apathetic uninformed voters as it is, why allow more of them to shape the nation?

Enough about UKIP voters, thanks.

CLAPTON

tincans6 wrote: »

I have always been in the Remain camp, but every Leave person I talk to (this is normally in the pub, admittedly) can't shut up about it once they get started.

In fact, you start having a conversation, then they simply start talking at you despite your own best efforts to steer the conversation on to anything else.
As the drink takes hold, you know that the racist 'jokes' will be fired at you soon enough.

you clearly have a toxic view of your friends and about half of your fellow country people
are you sure you are right for this democratic country where people are free to express their opinions?

tincans6

CLAPTON wrote: »

you clearly have a toxic view of your friends and about half of your fellow country people
are you sure you are right for this democratic country where people are free to express their opinions?

Who said anything about friends ?

Who said anything about not wanting people to express their opinions ?

I'm only passing on what I have found - I can see how unlimited migration has caused problems in places and I can understand the argument about democracy and sovereignty. There are left wing arguments and right wing arguments and people like Michael Gove and in the past Tony Benn put them across eloquently.

Sadly the Brexiters I have met just drone on and on about immigration or asylum seekers.
I just don't appreciate a one way diatribe.

People with closed minds, who want to believe what they believe regardless of any fact and other peoples point of view. People who are very dull.

People like you really.

Still, its a small sample.

Scarpacci

youngbutwise wrote: »

I've also heard London is France's 6th biggest city from a French friend. I don't know where she got the info from but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

I've heard the statistic repeated a lot. I don't know how plausible it is. It would seem the sixth largest French city is Nantes with a population of 292,000 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communes_in_France_with_over_20,000_inhabitants ). For a city the size of London ( 8.5m ) that would translate to at least 3.5% of the population being French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Demography This says the French population in London is actually around 66,000 (0.7% of the population) with India (actually around 3% of the London population) and Poland (1.85%) far ahead. So unless there's a reason why the French population would be severely under counted, it seems unlikely to be true. It doesn't seem impossible for a country to make up that sort of population in London, but obviously it's far easier for India with a population of 1.2bn and stronger cultural links.