Has CLAPTON swung your mind. IN or OUT

Kohoutek

Marktheshark wrote: »

I have never heard of Clapton, I am voting in a referendum on our Membership of a political union that is €12,766,212,751,490 in debt and rising a over Hundred Euros a second.

Thats what I am voting for, I do not care about any of the "celebs" on either side or what they think.

That's a very strange reason, given that the UK is only responsible for its own national debt, not other EU member states' national debt.

If you think national debt is a measurement of economic success / failure, check out the US's national debt. Converted to euros, it's €17,107,450,400,953!

padington

Kohoutek wrote: »

That's a very strange reason, given that the UK is only responsible for its own national debt, not other EU member states' national debt.

If you think national debt is a measurement of economic success / failure, check out the US's national debt. Converted to euros, it's €17,107,450,400,953!

Exactly, it's like saying the village hobo is the richest guy around, because no one will give him credit.

All the decent democratic countries that we should be uniting with want us to remain. All our main political parties bar old Ben conorbyn who cant bring him self to say publically otherwise wants to remain. Even Boris started his campaign in order to renogotaite so we can ultimately remain.

Leaving could take 15 years to renegotiate every trade deal ever written, it would be like putting a generation on ice.

Thrugelmir

Mistermeaner wrote: »

However I see things on the leave side I find abhorrent and do not want to associate myself with them . neither do I want them to get the result they want .

At least we wouldn't have to put with incessant French nonsense like this (along with strikes).

Leaving the European Union would make the UK as significant as Guernsey, France's economy minister has said.
Emmanuel Macron told Le Monde newspaper that Britain would become "a little country on the world scale [that] would isolate itself... at Europe's border".
He said the EU should send "a very firm message" about the consequences of a British vote to leave the bloc.

Why is London's now France's 6th biggest city? No there's a question.

wotsthat

I don't really think anyone above state retirement age should've got a say in this referendum. They're the most likely to vote but the least likely to be affected either way and will have less time available to reflect on their choice.

The young will have to repent at leisure.

Mistermeaner

Thrugelmir wrote: »

At least we wouldn't have to put with incessant French nonsense .

will the strikers return to work if we vote out? I wasn't aware of that

Will France also be moved? The tunnel blocked and ferries cancelled?

Guess those camps in calais will disappear too.

I hope we can still access the cheese and wine

wotsthat

Thrugelmir wrote: »

At least we wouldn't have to put with incessant French nonsense like this (along with strikes).

Why is London's now France's 6th biggest city? No there's a question.

LOL you've taken offence to the tiniest slur (I expect because it was handed out by a garlic muncher) and extrapolated that to explain why the French are leaving France en-masse to take up in London.

One slight problem - London isn't now France's 6th biggest city - nowhere near.

PixelPound

Has the OP really simply made up their mind because of this? Sorry, call me sceptical, but I've seen feigned conversions from undecided before, by both sides. The "Hey I was completely undecided but just found out [insert spurious point given as a honest cross-my-heart-would-I-lie-to you fact] and that's it I'm now voting IN/OUT [delete as appropriate], what about you?" is so unpersuasive.

youngbutwise

wotsthat wrote: »

LOL you've taken offence to the tiniest slur (I expect because it was handed out by a garlic muncher) and extrapolated that to explain why the French are leaving France en-masse to take up in London.

One slight problem - London isn't now France's 6th biggest city - nowhere near.

I've also heard London is France's 6th biggest city from a French friend. I don't know where she got the info from but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't really think anyone above state retirement age should've got a say in this referendum. They're the most likely to vote but the least likely to be affected either way and will have less time available to reflect on their choice.

The young will have to repent at leisure.

if one was mad enough to follow the logic surely one would base voting eligibility on life expectancy rather than simply age.
so anyone suffering from cancer or life shorting disability or risky occupation or overweight or a heavy smoker etc should be banned

madness of course, but then a few extremist in the remain camp are pretty unpleasant people.

LHW99

Since we won't be joining the Euro, don't want closer integration, are against joining an EU army, and don't want to join Schengen I don't see why we should be part of the EU and risk new treaties down the line that would force us to accept these things.
If we still have to pay to enter the single market so be it, but choosing leave formalises our position on the above.
I don't want our country to be forced at some point in the future (when we have other governments, other EU commissioners) so I will vote leave.

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I don't really think anyone above state retirement age should've got a say in this referendum.

What age is that now? 55 for those at early retirement, 60 for those who retired a little while ago, or who still have schemes where that is the NRA? 66+ for those who will get the new SP? or over 70 for those few who choose to keep working at least part-time until they feel its right to stop?