ESA Assessors/Nurses/Doctors

taboo65

Does anyone else have experience with their ESA or PIP assessors blatantly lying when writing up their reports.? Do you think they get a bonus for each one of us that they shaft???

TELLIT01

No, but when working for DWP I did see reports where the assessor had contradicted themselves with information entered on different parts of the form. It certainly made me wonder about how accurate any of the information was.

constantworrier

Yes. Mine said I told her I had recently attended a wedding. I haven't been to a wedding since 1978 when my Sister was married. So I obviously wouldn't say I'd been to a wedding. That was just one of the lies !!!

densol_2

Yes ! Ive had a number of assessments in 2015. IIDB, PIP, work injury benefit - so psychiatrist and psychologist and ESA.

ALL reports ( save the PIP one ) said I had severe mental health issues. At the PIP appointment, apparently I was 'calm' and everything was fine and dandy ! Such a liar

taboo65

My assessor has told some ridiculous porkies, leading to my ESA claim being thrown out..

GirlFromMars_2

My PIP assessment says:

- I attend therapy twice weekly, and am therefore perfectly capable of leaving the house by myself and following a familiar route.

- I don't attend therapy and therefore don't have a mental health problem.

I feel one of these statements is most definitely wrong!

The "health professional" nurse has misunderstood (or misrepresented!) my condition and claimed a symptom I have is inconsistent with my medical history.

And of course there are numerous other errors.

Incidentally, they've not made a decision on my PIP yet, is there any way of contacting them now and correcting some of the errors in the report, or do I have to wait for Mandatory Reconsideration?

taboo65

These so called health professionals, although I am not discrediting their qualifications, are not desk jockies, and are not specialists and therefore are not really capable of perfoming medicals, in my opinion, this is why there are so many mistakes.

taboo65

GirlFromMars wrote: »

My PIP assessment says:

- I attend therapy twice weekly, and am therefore perfectly capable of leaving the house by myself and following a familiar route.

- I don't attend therapy and therefore don't have a mental health problem.

I feel one of these statements is most definitely wrong!

The "health professional" nurse has misunderstood (or misrepresented!) my condition and claimed a symptom I have is inconsistent with my medical history.

And of course there are numerous other errors.

Incidentally, they've not made a decision on my PIP yet, is there any way of contacting them now and correcting some of the errors in the report, or do I have to wait for Mandatory Reconsideration?

I am almost certain you have to wait for the Mandatory Reconsideration

GirlFromMars_2

I'm assuming if they were going out and out to lie, they'd make more of an effort for being consistent in their lies - they sure get upset if there's even the slightest inconsistency in my testimony about my variable symptoms.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Allot of people take these reports seriously and to the heart.


When infact you really shouldn't put any weight to them at all especially when they're factually incorrect and have lots of gaping holes in key answers, and have lies within them.


Now I know to everyone who gets a ESA85 or PIP med report back that's not right etc get angry and upset and you have right to do so, you have a right to complain about the HCP making a false representation about you and your disabilities and infact ive seen some comments in these reports that could be discriminative against a disability, the simple thing to do is put these complaints to the relevant authorities midwife and Nursing council, Capita complaints dept, Atos Complaints dept. and back them up with NHS reports and letters.


You Then have two options.


You can repeal (in the verb sense) the report to the DWP make it void by way of being factually incorrect with with evidence, and the decision maker didn't follow internal procedures by way of verifying the report against the medical evidence and demand that the DWP instruct another contractor to complete another medical and this time request it is recorded.


OR


You can pick apart the report put medical evidence to contradict the lies, put the medical evidence you have against the descriptors and accept the report as is. Go through the formality of a Mandatory reconsideration, then when this has no affect to the decision, you instruct the Tribunal service that the DWP and HCP has acted in "unclean hands" (know as the unclean hands doctrine) and you put the evidence of this before the panel and you tell the panel that if they are to consider another medical assessment then it is to be fully tape recorded at the expense of the DWP, if the DWP turn up, everyting they say will have little weight applied to it because the DWP and contractor and HCP has acted in "bad faith".


You then base your appeal around the fact and contradict the Medical report with NHS backed letters and reports if you have them.


I tend to base all my Mandatory Reconsiderations as if I going to tribunal, so I put all my evidence recordings and faith in one egg basket and send it to the DWP, if they don't bother to budge the previous decision, and have no objections to the evidence before them in their response to the tribunal then once at tribunal and they turn up a tribunal panel is unlikely strike out evidence based on the DWP not having any objection in the pre information disclosure they were given.


Many go wrong in the fact they try to disprove the lies in a report rather than PROVE the disability and descriptors that's more important and relevant.

Ames

Anecdotes on here seem to suggest that the nicer and friendlier the assessor is the more inaccurate the report.