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Savvybuyer

nerfdad wrote: »

We all know I make it more fun on here as its the naughty people who make the world more interesting :T:T:j:j

I like naughty people (or supposed allegedly naughty people as I don't accept the concept that they are "naughty" without evidence and substantiation separate from the opinions of human beings that don't constitute substantiation) such as people that don't follow standards expressly or impliedly set out by my teachers at school several decades ago. Such as - every person I know actually:rotfl:. I know no-one that follows the standards my teachers set out, to such an extent that I now don't believe that those standards actually apply. And I now don't think that my teachers, if they are still alive and most of them probably are, even follow those standards themselves. What hypocrisy and actual white lying we have where all of them pretended and expressed to me that something applied when in fact I later discovered I was misled:doh: and it does not apply at all - or, if it does, no-one seems to comply with it so it may as well not apply in practice!

That's the 'problem' - I look them literally, at their word, lost friends (and on one occasion in my childhood was caused upset) from following what my teachers said, and it turns out the teachers were (white?) lying. And I feel, as an adult, I am left worse and in a somewhat damaged (although not fundamentally and profoundly damaged) state for having followed what they said (that, for a long time now, has turned out not to be the truth) as what happened to me in my childhood affects me, socially conditioned, even now. I think they gave an over-simplification and not the truth. But it would have been helpful if they had told the truth. I accept however I am in a society that has problems telling the truth:rotfl:.

I'm sorry if any of my readers are teachers, as I seem to be blaming the teachers. I like it though when they don't follow standards that they set for children. Such as headteachers booing government ministers at national union conferences. One of a group of schoolchildren football players got told off at our school for booing the opposition - I doubt teachers would accept the same behaviour as their own from children! Also - and I know it was not intentional but more, it seems to me, a slip-up but, as a result, it allows me to take wonder from afar, looking from another planet once again, as an Ofsted person says something that is, really, far more offensive than anything any teacher still prohibits a child from saying. So, although I believe the Ofsted situation was unintended, it's actually something worse than the behaviour of children!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-36987074

I am sorry [I am not really, as I am being truthful and I'm sure that all of us - come on admit it, you do! - are the same as me] - I must admit to being a schadenfreude and I like it when teachers slip up and get into trouble or do things that they try and stop children doing:rotfl:. There but for the grace of God I suppose though...

I think the last paragraph is confirmation that I'm a bit of (or even profoundly!) a naughty person myself. Naughty - but never illegal or unacceptable.

nerfdad

Savvybuyer wrote: »

I like naughty people (or supposed allegedly naughty people as I don't accept the concept that they are "naughty" without evidence and substantiation separate from the opinions of human beings that don't constitute substantiation) such as people that don't follow standards expressly or impliedly set out by my teachers at school several decades ago. Such as - every person I know actually:rotfl:. I know no-one that follows the standards my teachers set out, to such an extent that I now don't believe that those standards actually apply. And I now don't think that my teachers, if they are still alive and most of them probably are, even follow those standards themselves. What hypocrisy and actual white lying we have where all of them pretended and expressed to me that something applied when in fact I later discovered I was misled:doh: and it does not apply at all - or, if it does, no-one seems to comply with it so it may as well not apply in practice!

That's the 'problem' - I look them literally, at their word, and it turns out they were (white?) lying. And I feel, as an adult, I am left worse and in a somewhat damaged state for having followed what they said (that, for a long time now, has turned out not to be the truth) as what happened to me in my childhood affects me, socially conditioned, even now. I think they gave an over-simplification and not the truth. But it would have been helpful if they had told the truth. I accept however I am in a society that has problems telling the truth:rotfl:.

Lots of teachers in my family and they are all nuts and lie lots:eek::eek::eek: people don't like it when you tell the truth and tend to get up-set but it has to be done sometimes
Savvy never change as I love your logic and tell it like it is:cool::)

Savvybuyer

I am politically correct as well. (I'm sorry if this gives people a bad impression of myself - as impressions matter beyond all else in our society - and if anyone thinks less of me now as a result. I often, as someone who has Asperger's, don't make a "good" impression - but, then, I am not here to make good (or for that matter, bad or neutral and indifferent) impressions - but here to comply with the truth and to say it). I am politically correct (although it's barbed as I often like people that aren't:rotfl: - if it's comedy for instance) and found some Seaweed product on offer in M earlier in the week and I've seen it's on msm but I don't really like how they describe it under a category called "ethnic foods".

To me, every food is an "ethnic" food since everybody, including white people of English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish descent, has an "ethnic origin" of some kind or another. In fact, it's all wrong as every one of us is really multi-heritage. I'm probably 99.999% white origin and 0.001% black African origin, or something else, so we have all got multi-heritage in our origin. I would therefore prefer it to be described as "world foods", as I find the E word very dodgy. Put that into a sentence in the wrong order and sometimes you have got me! The worst offenders, in my experience, on those on diversity committees in public authorities that purport to apply standards of acceptability and then suggest a replacement expression that offends me!

I also don't like the name of a certain brand of ice cubes because I consider that word to be racially offensive too, even though it doesn't seem to be realised and no-one else in this society appears to realise that it is (I know it's not intended to be when in the description of the product but that is irrelevant - I have certainly *not* taken it to the extent of going and complaining to them though). But then I am so politically correct and more politically correct than politically correct. The thing for me that it is politically correct - and as I see it, it is right to be correct. I see political correctness as meaning "thinking about what we say and how we say something, before we say it". Which virtually no-one else ever seems to do and is always 'contravening' my standard on some basis or another:rotfl:.

I'd end up having you all treading on egg-shells and that gives rise to the chilling effect which I don't want either (so I'm contradicting myself)!

Savvybuyer

nerfdad wrote: »

Lots of teachers in my family and they are all nuts and lie lots:eek::eek::eek: people don't like it when you tell the truth and tend to get up-set but it has to be done sometimes
Savvy never change as I love your logic and tell it like it is:cool::)

Really? Well, I am totally and profoundly surprised and shocked and would never have guessed:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.

I'll call you out for using the word "nuts" though, as that's very offensive.



:rotfl:

Look - if teachers are going to play that game, then I can play it too and will go much much farther than any of them ever will do. So, start objecting to something and I will object almost to everything that you say on some basis or another - or on no basis at all as I don't even require that for an objection to be made. I'll object to what you say, and then I'll object to what you don't say too. And I won't give up - and I think all it will end up doing is totally infuriating and annoying everybody. If any of us took it seriously, that's where IMO it would end up. So - I'm glad we don't!:):cool:

It's not intended to be taken seriously. That's what I've concluded after observing that no-one else is ever complying with it or ever complying with anything that they purport that they are complying with. I think we all set standards for other people's behaviour that we don't comply with ourselves.

vanilla_twist

Afternoon all

Belated happy birthdays to Nellie and Gocat.

bubbs thanks for the Groupon Andrex. I know I still have quite a few from the amazon great price a while back but had to have another 45 rolls at that price. Not like it goes off or anything:T

Had a wonderful couple of days at the spa made even better by yesterdays amazing weather. I don't know how hot it got but was 26 at 7pm last night. Spent most of yesterday on the sunloungers round the pool and the sales staff bought round complimentary suncream to try.:j I know the idea was to get us to buy some later but too mse for that but did write it down for future reference as like to buy my stuff from Feelunique when Martin puts up a good code.
Centre Parcs amazingly quiet for the time of year but to take the family away is hellish expensive.

Ladyshopper hope you have a great time on 22nd. Next trip planned around Christmas time.

V x

nerfdad

Savvybuyer wrote: »

Really? Well, I am totally and profoundly surprised and shocked and would never have guessed:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.

I'll call you out for using the word "nuts" though, as that's very offensive.



:rotfl:

Look - if teachers are going to play that game, then I can play it too and will go much much farther than any of them ever will do. So, start objecting to something and I will object almost to everything that you say on some basis or another - or on no basis at all as I don't even require that for an objection to be made. I'll object to what you say, and then I'll object to what you don't say too.

Being very offensive is great fun :j:j:Dand always object savvy as it would be a boring world if we all just agreed:)
A lot of people do object to what I say or don't say already :rotfl::rotfl:

nerfdad

vanilla_twist wrote: »

Afternoon all

Belated happy birthdays to Nellie and Gocat.

bubbs thanks for the Groupon Andrex. I know I still have quite a few from the amazon great price a while back but had to have another 45 rolls at that price. Not like it goes off or anything:T

Had a wonderful couple of days at the spa made even better by yesterdays amazing weather. I don't know how hot it got but was 26 at 7pm last night. Spent most of yesterday on the sunloungers round the pool and the sales staff bought round complimentary suncream to try.:j I know the idea was to get us to buy some later but too mse for that but did write it down for future reference as like to buy my stuff from Feelunique when Martin puts up a good code.
Centre Parcs amazingly quiet for the time of year but to take the family away is hellish expensive.

Ladyshopper hope you have a great time on 22nd. Next trip planned around Christmas time.

V x

How much bog roll do you need :eek::eek::eek::rotfl::rotfl:
Centre parcs is great but as you say expensive

Savvybuyer

But I'm now looking it up and here I go (the obsession again:rotfl:).

Someone else (namely this writer's boyfriend) thinks it's offensive too:
https://glowing.com/community/topic/72057594038685828/is-the-term-ethnic-food-offensive

I note the 2.23%, but that's a self-selected poll and not scientific. Besides, it does not mean that it is not to somebody (and that's two of us plus the it looks like about 5 people that have clicked "yes") and I rest my case as my point is proven: offence is always to a minority. We are also all in a minority of something at some point.

I certainly think the plural of the word if used to describe a group of people is offensive - or at least potentially so - or rationally so even if not personally emotionally - or that it is objectionable. If people use that, then I do consider them to be racist. Which itself - that last word - the R-word! - is, as someone has interestingly (or not:rotfl:) written elsewhere on the internet - the most offensive word that isn't a taboo word. So I am wrong too. Call someone "racist", without any real strong and absolute foundation for that, and you risk causing extreme offence indeed. So, the word "racist", in that sense, is potentially now very offensive and inflammatory. It does risk offending people a great deal. I mean - if someone called you that and you are not...

But then I am politically correct and consider these sorts of things:o all the time.

I think I'm just being picky as I wouldn't have thought the term was offensive years ago or that it was just the way the msm page came across that now gave me the concern. And I wouldn't use the term "foreign food" either as I consider that to be offensive, at least potentially racist and wrong:rotfl:. Talking about someone being "foreign", which is done by suggesting that some food is "foreign", and it sets up a divide between this country and elsewhere and is therefore tricky, or problematic now that I have created it as a problem.

But actually now I am rather laughing at her boyfriend making a face (of presumed objection):rotfl:. As she certainly didn't intend it to be offensive and was expressing her love of [Strike]ethnic[/Strike] [Strike]foreign[/Strike] world* food.

*I don't know if even that might be offensive. Oh I give up - there's just no way to refer to it:rotfl:. :eek:Am I suggesting that food of British origin and made in Britain isn't part of the "world" and therefore does not have its equally valid place in it? Well, now, that would be wrong.

bubbs

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bubbs

vanilla_twist wrote: »

Afternoon all

Belated happy birthdays to Nellie and Gocat.

bubbs thanks for the Groupon Andrex. I know I still have quite a few from the amazon great price a while back but had to have another 45 rolls at that price. Not like it goes off or anything:T

Had a wonderful couple of days at the spa made even better by yesterdays amazing weather. I don't know how hot it got but was 26 at 7pm last night. Spent most of yesterday on the sunloungers round the pool and the sales staff bought round complimentary suncream to try.:j I know the idea was to get us to buy some later but too mse for that but did write it down for future reference as like to buy my stuff from Feelunique when Martin puts up a good code.
Centre Parcs amazingly quiet for the time of year but to take the family away is hellish expensive.

Ladyshopper hope you have a great time on 22nd. Next trip planned around Christmas time.

V x

Hello :wave::
Glad you enjoyed the spa:T:T
I have never bought anything from groupon :eek: but glad you got some:D