Can you appeal for overstaying due to being a new breastfeeding stressed out mother?

pappa_golf

who said ask?


I said to print out the invoice add your phone no / email and speak to MANAGERS , do not "ask" you TELL them to get it cancelled

Coupon-mad

YasmineA90 wrote: »

i was thinking about doing that Pappa Golf however a restaurant I went in to sit and feed her (pizza hut) wouldn't give me anything or do anything to help as I didn't keep a receipt (don't think I got given one/waited for one) and as I paid for everything in cash i have no card transaction evidence either.. should i just go into one of the shops and ask anyway?

Yes, we've seen Matalan & M&S (to name two I can recall re retail parks) cancel where a person had no receipt and just complained in person & said they'd been browsing that day, were horrified by the threats and had no intention to shop there ever again with their family unless the PCN was cancelled.

You should also Google the name of the retail park and contact the landowner/agent to complain because they are the ones who took on Euro here as their agent and they can cancel the charge, without a doubt.

You should have come here sooner and appealed it properly and won at POPLA with our help. We've never lost a Euro Car Parks one and generally still have over 90% success rate, undoubtedly, with our thorough, bespoke forum-assisted appeals here or on pepipoo forum. Nowhere can better forum POPLA appeals right now, in terms of success rate. POPLA appeals are (usually, especially non-ParkingEye ones) fairly easy to win in fact, when you know how. Too late for that.

Apart from that, of course ignore the daft debt collector letters like everyone here does.

DO NOT RING THEM.

MissTigger

thank you for the help, the parking notice is for February the 5th, and I've made no proper appeal in all this time, other than asking Pizza Hut, I haven't asked any of the other shops I went in. Is it too late to go getting the shops to cancel my parking fine if I have NO receipts?

thanks

Umkomaas

Too late to appeal to the PPC, but you can still get the retailer/landowner to press for a cancellation.

Now you're at the debt collector stage, please read the newbies sticky, post #4, which deals with debt collectors.

Coupon-mad

No. It is NEVER too late, just brandish the pile of threatograms and ask them if this is how they reward young Mums for taking time to shop & browse at this retail park. Get angry but stay polite. Do the same to the retail park owner/managing agent which you will have found by now within two minutes, if you've Googled the place. Pretty much all retail parks with a 'name' are dead easy to find who runs them, after a tad of online reseach.

I'm guessing you haven't read 'Successful Complaints about PPCs' yet - it's a thread shown as one of the very first links in the 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FQS FIRST' thread near the top of this forum. People have reported success with complaints like this for many years, often 18 months or more after the stupid 'parking event'. Loads and loads of successes reported there to inspire you.

If you pay this you need your head examining, and I'm sure you don't! Us women (and the chaps here too) need to stick together and be heard against this scam. My first private parking ticket I ever ignored some 8 years ago when my 4 kids were younger, was from Euro Car Parks too and I've never looked back. Some letters arrived. I laughed at the letters and ignored them. It fizzled out.

Nowadays POPLA is a better option but that didn't exist then and for you, it's like the old days because you missed POPLA. So what, really? It's still just Euro Car Parks!

Half_way

Seriously, relax, while you need to do something your opening statement is wrong

Hi, I'm new here.
This is my first ever debt at age 25

This is not a real true debt, only the murky world of the private parking industry trying to scare you into believing what it wants you to.

From your reply you were captured by an ANPR camera. Unless these things can automatically detect those with protected characteristics under the Equality Act, such as breastfeeding mothers/those who are pregnant/have mobility issues etc , then in my opinion they have no place in car parks for timing vehicles in/out.

While the Parasitic parking company (PPC) will just reject your letter/challenge/instruction to stop, your best option is to contact the landowner and complain that their agents ( the PPC) are discriminating against you, as you have (had) a protected characteristic under the equality act which meant you needed extra time in their car park for the purposes of breastfeeding, and you are now informing the landowner that they should instruct their agents, the parking company to cancel this charge, and cease all correspondence.
You should also remind the landowner that they are equally liable for the actions of their agent ( the parking company ) should the PPC and/or its associates continue to pursue this matter.


So your next move should be to find the landowner, and put them, in an awkward spot, one way to do this would be to name the retail park, another would be a google search something along the lines of XYZ retail park units available /contact In most cases the true owners are usually a pension fund, maybe church commissioners, a large property company such as savills and so on.
If the landowner is a charity then there could be issues for the landowner wwith the charities commission in allowing something like a PPC to operate on their land

MissTigger

I have found the landowner, it is a company called Land Securities I believe, it is Ravenside retail park in Chesterfield.
Tomorrow I am going to pursue this and get them to cancel the charge with their agent based on what you have said, about the equality act and all mentioned above.
Thank you all

Umkomaas

Before ploughing into them, do have a read of the Equality Act 2010's section on breastfeeding mothers.

It will pay you to have a notebook and pen and make a note of the relevant paragraph numbers that you will quote to the landowner, especially the bit about a counterclaim on them. You will sound well briefed and they'll hopefully understand that it's quicker (and safer) to get the charge cancelled than to be facing an assertive breastfeeding mother, who appears to know her way around the Act and who could follow through with a legal case against them.