TC renewal with new partner

KDC

Hi. I've claimed WTC and CTC as a single parent for a number of years. In Feb 2016 my partner moved in and I told HMRC straight away. He works FT plus gets a medical pension and when we filled in the COC form all my tax credits stopped (as we expected).

We've got the renewal and they want BOTH of our earnings from 2014/2015 as well as 2015/2016. I rang HMRC and asked why they wanted his for 2014/15 when we weren't living together and was told it's because my payments for 2015/2016 are based on earnings for 2014/2015.

Because he moved in with me in Feb 2016 it's during the 2015/2016 tax year. I asked the man at HMRC if we should've waited until April for him to move in and he basically said "Yes."

I just wonder if we give our earnings as requested would they calculate that it was approx. 8wks of the old tax year that we actually lived together? During these 8wks my tax credits stopped.

We don't think we'll be eligible to receive WTC/CTC (with 1 child) so are wondering if we should just not bother filling in this form as we know we wont get anything anyway.

The question I'm asking is must we fill the form in regardless?

Darksparkle

What do you mean by COC form? Do you mean an application form?

You shouldn't get a renewal form for a joint claim if you never filled out an application form as a couple.

If you did fill out an application form as a couple anytime in the 2015/16 tax year then yes they will need the 2014/15 income.

cheesetoast

KDC wrote: »

The question I'm asking is must we fill the form in regardless?

Yes, you must, unless you want to cancel your claim and not receive anything.

If you don't fill in the form, you're not completing the application/renewal process, so you're not eligible.

If you lie about when your partner moved in, you can be done for fraud.

So, fill in the form, tell the truth, and let Hector do the calculations.

Icequeen99

KDC wrote: »

Hi. I've claimed WTC and CTC as a single parent for a number of years. In Feb 2016 my partner moved in and I told HMRC straight away. He works FT plus gets a medical pension and when we filled in the COC form all my tax credits stopped (as we expected).

We've got the renewal and they want BOTH of our earnings from 2014/2015 as well as 2015/2016. I rang HMRC and asked why they wanted his for 2014/15 when we weren't living together and was told it's because my payments for 2015/2016 are based on earnings for 2014/2015.

Because he moved in with me in Feb 2016 it's during the 2015/2016 tax year. I asked the man at HMRC if we should've waited until April for him to move in and he basically said "Yes."

I just wonder if we give our earnings as requested would they calculate that it was approx. 8wks of the old tax year that we actually lived together? During these 8wks my tax credits stopped.

We don't think we'll be eligible to receive WTC/CTC (with 1 child) so are wondering if we should just not bother filling in this form as we know we wont get anything anyway.

The question I'm asking is must we fill the form in regardless?

If you have been sent a renewal form then yes you should fill it in.

In your situation you should receive two forms - one for the single claim and then one for the joint claim. Waiting until April wouldn't really have made any difference - his income will only affect the period he was living with you. The rest of the year, when you were single, will be calculated on just your income - you will get a different renewal form for that.

IQ

KDC

Thanks for your replies. COC is Change of Circumstances. When I told HMRC he'd moved in they stopped my payments immediately, sent us out a form and we filled it in and got a reply that I/we were no longer eligible.

We'll fill in the form and send it back.

Thanks again.

Darksparkle

KDC wrote: »

Thanks for your replies. COC is Change of Circumstances. When I told HMRC he'd moved in they stopped my payments immediately, sent us out a form and we filled it in and got a reply that I/we were no longer eligible.

We'll fill in the form and send it back.

Thanks again.

Yes I understood what COC stood for, there just isn't a COC form, it just an application form. That's what I was unsure of.

Technically if you had no payments in the joint claim then it doesn't matter if you do the renewal, they'll just terminate that claim. However probably just easier if you do fill it out, it doesn't take too long.

You must do the renewal for the single claim though so that can be finalised correctly.

miss_D_2

does anyone know how much you can earn up to as a couple with 2 children?

Darksparkle

miss_D wrote: »

does anyone know how much you can earn up to as a couple with 2 children?

Depends on working hours, childcare, disabilities etc

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/tax-credits-entitlement-tables

miss_D_2

oh really 🤔 I work 16 hours partner 30 hours, 2 kids 1 registered disabled, calculator says we are not untitled to any help 🙁

susannthe3cs

With 2 kids one disabled think max earnings is about 40k ish

Darksparkle

Yes it would be approx £40,000 if the disabled child is on low/middle care and no childcare.

If on high care or childcare, that would be higher.