Smart meters not compatible with underfloor heating

Dodgysailor

Hi,
My gas supplier called me the other day to discuss the possibility to install a smart meter. I was told that because I have underfloor heating the current smart meters are not compatible and that i need to wait until they are. Is this true? and if so why?

System

According to Ovo, what you have been told is true.

https://www.ovoenergy.com/ovo-answers/topics/smart-technology/smart-meters/what-happens-if-i-cant-have-a-smart-meter-installed.html

Personally, I would wait until SMETS2 compliant smart meters are rolled out later this year ( provided there is no further project slippage). the present generation meters become dumb on switch.

molerat

The present meters seem pretty dumb without switching Whoever designed a meter that cannot .... er .... measure electricity use properly. I can't understand how it can measure E7 but not if you have storage heaters

spiro

molerat wrote: »

The present meters seem pretty dumb without switching Whoever designed a meter that cannot .... er .... measure electricity use properly. I can't understand how it can measure E7 but not if you have storage heaters

Technically the night part of E7 which makes you a Profile Class 2 site (switched load) means the heating/hot water is on a 2nd circuit which only cuts in at night. If you don't have switched load it is in effect just a time of use tariff. To operate the 2nd circuit requires the meter to be a 5 terminal one.

Cardew

The OP specifically stated 'Gas supplier'. The posts that follow have assumed electrical UFH.

It is possible to have Gas UFH!

I wonder if the supplier has also assumed electrical UFH?

MeterMan

I cant see why smart meters aren't compatible with UFH, only thing that I know of is solar panels, and because they produce an export energy, infact, its not even the meter which isn't compatible, its the monitor which isn't.

[Deleted User]

The new electric smart meters are compatible with E7.. Landys and Gyr E470 smart meter can operate in Eco 7 or Time of Use tariffs and import/export. Its been in use by many suppliers since at least 2012 its just that the suppliers have`nt got their systems in place to bill Eco 7 via smart meters. It is a state of the art meter and can handle everything possible for different tariffs.
I have only just seen my first smart prepayment gas meter in use this month (also a landys and gyr 470 ) 8 years after smart meters were first introduced by British Gas. It looks like Eco 7 users are relugated to the bottom of the pile by the suppliers to implement smart eco7. Its a pity because all the mess ups on eco 7 billing would end when they go smart, and we see it on here all the time .
It will be interesting to see how the fiddlers on prepay gas/electric meters get round the new smart prepay meters. I`m sure they will try but will the suppliers take any notice when the meter sends back tamper codes ? But of course, they don t have to accept a smart prepay meter anyway thanks to the goverment sticking its noses into our affairs again.