WASPI Campaign .... State Pensions

Silvertabby

Agreed. WASPI are perpetuating their financial hardship by encouraging them to join a hopeless political campaign which seeks to benefit of people much better off than them, instead of claiming the benefits that they are already entitled to.

They are like the snake oil salespeople who tell the seriously ill to take homeopathic remedies and by doing so prevent them from seeking genuine medical help. Posted by Malthusian

Well put. The only pictures I've seen of the 'hard done by' WASPI campaigners were two women travelling by first class rail (and proudly swigging champagne!) on their way to protest outside Parliament, and a woman being interviewed for the BBC. At first glance , I thought that the interview was taking place in the lounge of a very plush hotel - but it turned out to be her own home.

molerat

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/family/2017/07/guest-comment-waspi-campaign-responds-to-pensions-minister-advice-to-take-up-apprenticeships?_ga=2.115777858.512431973.1498464840-616401537.1498464840

I notice there is no ability to comment.

Our debate on Wednesday showed just how out of touch the Government really is with the electorate and its own party

No, out of touch with a small minority of grasping 60 something women.

We are not opposed to State Pension age equalisation. In fact, we are in favour of equal rights (and responsibilities) for men and women. We believe that men and women should retire at the same time. Neither are we calling for the State Pension age to revert to 60, and we are not asking for a reversal of any Pension Act.

Luckily I did not have a mouth full of coffee when I read that bit.

Please MSE. stop giving space to this bunch. It makes Martin look like someone who will jump on any bandwagon to get himself tabloid inches.

bmm78

Yesterday, the 4th batch of women affected by the 2011 Pensions Act became eligible to receive their State Pension.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/310231/spa-timetable.pdf

Equalisation of state pension ages at 65 for all intents and purposes will occur in November 2018.

Even if the political will was there, it seems that the window for any resolution has already passed.

OldBeanz

bmm78 wrote: »

Yesterday, the 4th batch of women affected by the 2011 Pensions Act became eligible to receive their State Pension.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/310231/spa-timetable.pdf

Equalisation of state pension ages at 65 for all intents and purposes will occur in November 2018.

Even if the political will was there, it seems that the window for any resolution has already passed.

But, but, but how can that be fair. Stop time, I say.

colsten

molerat wrote: »

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/family/2017/07/guest-comment-waspi-campaign-responds-to-pensions-minister-advice-to-take-up-apprenticeships?_ga=2.115777858.512431973.1498464840-616401537.1498464840

I notice there is no ability to comment.

That's how WASPI operate. They suppress comments, just in case the comments could be critical of WASPI. They have 'moderated' their Facebook site for several months now - not one single comment gets published without the express approval by WASPI. They must be terribly insecure if they have to resort to such drastic measures.

Waiting with baited breath for an explanation from MSE why their younger members should somehow find extra money to pay all the 1950s women a pension/compensation (or whatever WASPI call it). Could it be that MSE doesn't understand how state pensions are funded?

colsten

bmm78 wrote: »

Even if the political will was there, it seems that the window for any resolution has already passed.

It would be criminal if in excess of 70bn would be paid exclusively to women born in the 1950s when there isn't enough money for the NHS, no money at all for Social Care, and no money to give our young people a free education.

Mortgagefreeman

colsten wrote: »

It would be criminal if in excess of 70bn would be paid exclusively to women born in the 1950s when there isn't enough money for the NHS, no money at all for Social Care, and no money to give our young people a free education.

That's the problem with the GRASPI's, it's all me,me me.:mad:

Silvertabby

The problem is that we weren’t told about changes to our pension age and some of us had less than one year to prepare for a six-year change in the pension age. By contrast, men had six years to prepare for an increase of one year. This is not fair. Jane Cowley ( from colsten's link)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. What a load of cobblers.

OK, I'll admit that the first announcement in the 1993 budget probably passed me by, but I know for a fact that it was the subject of much discussion by women at work, in the shops, at the hairdressers and in the pub etc by 1995, largely due to the many articles in the newspapers and women's magazines. How can I be sure that this was 1995? Because my late mum had a right chew over it (not for herself, as she was over 60) on behalf my sister and myself. Mum died in the summer of 1995 and she certainly knew all about the changes, despite not being able to leave the house for the last 4 months of her life.

To anyone who still claims that they didn't know, I say that you did - but you just ignored it on the grounds that the changes were 'years off' and something that only applied to 'pensioners'.

Mortgagefreeman

Silvertabby wrote: »

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. What a load of cobblers.

OK, I'll admit that the first announcement in the 1993 budget probably passed me by, but I know for a fact that it was the subject of much discussion by women at work, in the shops, at the hairdressers and in the pub etc by 1995, largely due to the many articles in the newspapers and women's magazines. How can I be sure that this was 1995? Because my late mum had a right chew over it (not for herself, as she was over 60) on behalf my sister and myself. Mum died in the summer of 1995 and she certainly knew all about the changes, despite not being able to leave the house for the last 4 months of her life.

To anyone who still claims that they didn't know, I say that you did - but you just ignored it on the grounds that the changes were 'years off' and something that only applied to 'pensioners'.

GRASPI's can bleat as much as they like, but NO Government is going to make any changes to the 1995 Act, as this is 'carved in stone' iIn the unlikely event the 2011 Act gets further amendments, I think we'd all welcome that.

colsten

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

In the unlikely event the 2011 Act gets further amendments, I think we'd all welcome that.

I admit, I would love to have my SP 18 months earlier than it's scheduled right now. Then I look at what it would cost to repeal the 2011 Act, and because it is way in excess of £30bn, I can't really seriously ask for it. If there were £30bn looking for a home, use them for something like getting rid of food banks