Garden internal fences - height

Bubblecat
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I am wanting to put some trellis on top of part of a fence so I can grow some clematis on it to provide privacy. This will increase the height of this part of the fence to around 3m. The fence borders the access footpath to the front door of my house so therefore lies within the boundaries of the property and doesn't form the boundary with our neighbours. The fence is approximately 2.5m from the neighbours 2m high fence.

I know that boundary fences cannot be higher than 2m without planning permission but what about fences that are within a property's boundaries?

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  • molerat
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    edited 6 June 2016 at 2:36PM
    A fence is a fence.
    http://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/advice/advice_apply/advice_apply_homes/advice_around_home/advice_home_fences.htm
    Planning permission is not required provided that:
    1. The wall or fence is not more than 2 metres in height anywhere on your property except where it adjoins a road or footpath. In this case the height is restricted to 1 metre.
    2. You don’t live in an open plan/shared surface type of development. In which case always consult your local area planning office as there may be a condition attached to the planning permission for the estate which would override this guidance.
    and
    Note: Any railing, balustrade etc around a deck or raised platform can not be more than 2 metres in height from ground level.
    Which pretty much covers all eventualities.
  • Davesnave
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    The question isn't so much what the law is, but whether anyone is likely to make you comply with the law. There must be many thousands of non-compliant fences, erected without PP, simply because they trouble no one and are not easily seen.

    Also consider whether the trellis/fence will be strong enough to withstand forces applied by the laws of physics, which enforce themselves. It's a H&S issue as much as it is one of planning.
  • Don't forget the "If they can = you can" consideration.

    If neighbours are up to summat they shouldnt be (eg too high fences or something) then that means there is an unspoken agreement between you of "I won't say anything about what you 'shouldnt' be doing - if you don't say anything about what I 'shouldnt' be doing. And....dont forget you were the one that started that.....:cool:".

    Well - that's the viewpoint I'm taking personally.....:cool:
  • HappyMJ
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    Bubblecat wrote: »
    I am wanting to put some trellis on top of part of a fence so I can grow some clematis on it to provide privacy. This will increase the height of this part of the fence to around 3m. The fence borders the access footpath to the front door of my house so therefore lies within the boundaries of the property and doesn't form the boundary with our neighbours. The fence is approximately 2.5m from the neighbours 2m high fence.

    I know that boundary fences cannot be higher than 2m without planning permission but what about fences that are within a property's boundaries?

    All fences you erect should be on your land anyway. You have no right to erect a fence on someone else's land so any fence you erect will be wholly within the boundaries of your property even if it's right next to the boundary. You can't erect any part of it on the neighbours land.
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  • Davesnave
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    All fences you erect should be on your land anyway. You have no right to erect a fence on someone else's land ..... You can't erect any part of it on the neighbours land.


    Nobody suggested doing so.

    I know it's late in the day, so am I missing something?
  • TheGardener
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    3 mts is a very high fence!? Why would you need one so high - and how much damage would it do if the wind caught it ?
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