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Unsure if neighbour needs planning permission?

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  • seven-day-weekend
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    If his conservatory is under a certain size he won't usually need planning permission. Neither will he need it for the outbuilding if it is a certain distance away from his house and within the height limits.

    (Sorry I don't know if the measurements have changed since I last worked in planning in 2004 and therefore have not quoted any.).
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  • davidmcn
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    playaz wrote: »
    If someone was growing marijuana in their garden i'd be no different...

    Failing to get planning permission isn't a criminal offence though.
  • melstar11
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    Off the top of my head, if this outbuilding is being connected up to the services, especially the water and sewerage, I think pp is required. If the conservatory comes under permitted development then he can't just keep adding, thinking that comes under permitted development too.

    Some councils have rules about how much of the original garden can be built on.

    I think the OP to right to query this. The rules are designed to stop overdevelopment and to prevent people from building what are essentially additional dwellings in their gardens (and not paying council tax and water rates on them).
  • Cakeguts
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    We had to get planning permission for our conservatory. It is about 2 years old.
  • getmore4less
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    My local council and a few others I have looked at have a web page you just fill in and they look into the issue you raise.

    (check there is not a permitted development or planning app already done)

    Councils rely on people to police as they can't be everywhere all the time.
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 6 June 2016 at 8:42AM
    Cakeguts wrote: »
    We had to get planning permission for our conservatory. It is about 2 years old.

    Sometimes you do need permission for a conservatory. If there are previous extensions to the house which have used up your Permitted Development rights, or if the size is larger than that permitted under PD, or if it is in a conservation area or the property is listed for example.

    We thought we would need it for ours, as it is bigger than PD rights allow,; however we demolished an attached (for planning purposes) garage to make room for the conservatory, so were able to deduct this volume from the build size, bringing it within PD rights.
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  • dc197
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    The second enhancement - the outbuilding - may not be allowed under permitted development because the house has already been enhanced by the conservatory. You will need to check the size of the "original house" and then factor in all the other buildings (sheds, conservatory, other extensions, etc). If this outbuilding would take the footprint (surface area) of the buildings over a certain fraction of the original house's footprint (I think 150% - but that's from memory) it migth not be allowed under permitted development and permission would be needed.
    The Planning Portal site will explain all this.
  • SevenOfNine
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    May not need planning permission but doesn't mean 'permission' does not need to be sought. Check your deeds & see if there are any restrictive covenants, your neighbours will be the same.

    There was such a covenant on the house our son purchased, so the seller paid for an indemnity. When we sold the house recently the indemnity was transferred to the new owner but we had to pay £50 to increase the level, or our solicitor could have applied for retrospective permission to the Homes & Communities Agency but it would take longer.
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  • Hoploz
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    dc197 wrote: »
    The second enhancement - the outbuilding - may not be allowed under permitted development because the house has already been enhanced by the conservatory. You will need to check the size of the "original house" and then factor in all the other buildings (sheds, conservatory, other extensions, etc). If this outbuilding would take the footprint (surface area) of the buildings over a certain fraction of the original house's footprint (I think 150% - but that's from memory) it migth not be allowed under permitted development and permission would be needed.
    The Planning Portal site will explain all this.

    You're allowed to build on max 50% of your land. So if you've a big garden you can build and build till half of it is covered.

    The limitations you and other posters mention may be applicable in certain areas where there are particular rules, eg green belt, but are by no means standard.
  • Hoploz
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    edited 6 June 2016 at 1:37PM
    dc197 wrote: »
    The second enhancement - the outbuilding - may not be allowed under permitted development because the house has already been enhanced by the conservatory. You will need to check the size of the "original house" and then factor in all the other buildings (sheds, conservatory, other extensions, etc). If this outbuilding would take the footprint (surface area) of the buildings over a certain fraction of the original house's footprint (I think 150% - but that's from memory) it migth not be allowed under permitted development and permission would be needed.
    The Planning Portal site will explain all this.

    You're allowed to build on max 50% of your land. So if you've a big garden you can build and build till half of it is covered.

    The variations you mention may be applicable in certain areas where there are particular rules, eg green belt, or you may need permission if there are other special circumstances, but are by no means standard.

    Building regs are a different matter which may be a confusing point
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