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Another Stamp Duty question - the house adjoining us

We live in a semi and are hoping to buy the other half with the intention of knocking through to make one property. Anyone got an idea whether this will incur the 3% surcharge? I've looked around but can't find any references to this scenario!

TIA
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  • Boatdweller
    Boatdweller Posts: 158 Forumite
    If you are buying another home in addition to the one you already own then I would assume yes, you pay the extra stamp duty. The fact your want to turn it into one dwelling in neither here nor there.
  • and yet granny flats are exempt!
  • DTDfanBoy
    DTDfanBoy Posts: 1,704 Forumite
    tree-peony wrote: »
    and yet granny flats are exempt!
    What gives you that idea, if you were buying a granny flat you'd be just as liable to pay the extra SD.
  • Senior_Paper_Monitor
    Senior_Paper_Monitor Posts: 2,918 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 3 June 2016 at 7:59AM
    Damn good question that one ! I thought I'd covered all options with my research and notes - dammit !!

    My guess is that you pay it on purchase but if you merge it within 36 months that will be a disposal and you can claim it back.

    Your solicitor will almost certainly need to refer this one to HMRC for a ruling.

    I'd love to know the answer when you find out !
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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    I think all that matters is the position as at the date of completion of the purchase - similar principle to residential / non-residential rules (e.g. it's not an additional dwellinghouse if what you're buying isn't yet a house).
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    DTDfanBoy wrote: »
    What gives you that idea, if you were buying a granny flat you'd be just as liable to pay the extra SD.
    he has kept up to date with SDLT changes is where he has the idea - he is correct BTW!

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/apr/16/stamp-duty-u-turn-brings-tax-relief-for-granny-flat-buyers
  • Thanks Senior Paper Monitor. That was what I thought might be the situation. As it happens I may well move my Mum in to part of the property once the knock through is complete. I will report back if I get any news :)
  • DTDfanBoy
    DTDfanBoy Posts: 1,704 Forumite
    booksurr wrote: »
    he has kept up to date with SDLT changes is where he has the idea - he is correct BTW!

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/apr/16/stamp-duty-u-turn-brings-tax-relief-for-granny-flat-buyers

    I don't see anything in that article that suggests the OP wouldn't have to pay the extra SD if they purchased a granny flat rather that the house next door :cool:

    The changes are clearly aimed at those selling an existing property then purchasing another which comes with an existing granny flat ;)
  • AnnieO1234
    AnnieO1234 Posts: 1,722 Forumite
    If Senior Paper Monitor hadn't already said it, that was what I was going to suggest. Surely it will come under the 18 month's rule?

    The problem may be convincing HMRC that it is one single residential property, that might not be as clear cut as having a through door because there'd be nothing to stop a landlord from buying next door with a locked through door, renting it out and claiming it was one property.

    It will need paying at 3% on purchase in any event. xxx
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    My guess is that you pay it on purchase but if you merge it within 18 months that will be a disposal and you can claim it back.

    I can't see any disposal involved.
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