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Gloss paint for skirting and internal door frames

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I know this has been discussed over the years but I can't find or remember what product was highly recommended.

I was going to skip painting the skirting and door frames but the colour now completely stands out as a pale stone/dirty beige but especially in the hallway since I've painted the walls in matt, apple crush and willow tree.

I want to go for the traditional look of gloss pure white but do I go for water based or oil based? What grade sand paper do I use to key the wood for new paint over old? What type of gloss to go for non drip, quick dry, trade, contract or high?

Is one brand better quality and value for money over another brand?

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  • London50
    London50 Posts: 1,850 Forumite
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    water based will stay whiter for longer than oil based {that will yellow over time}. fine grade glass paper for keying and personally I would choose trade paint and go for quality.
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,521 Forumite
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    Johnstone's has been recommended on here and B&M Bargains stock it.
  • Ainsley1
    Ainsley1 Posts: 404 Forumite
    edited 27 May 2016 at 9:03PM
    I generally agree. Water based quick dry gloss or satin in much whiter than comparable solvent based paints and retains it for longer.
    More advantages -no solvents, quicker to dry, easier to apply, brushes easier to clean, spills easier to clean up etc.
    Does have drawbacks, finish not as smooth, can be brushed too much (better with just slap it on quick principle and don't brush over drying paint) so more prone to brush marks, needs to be 10 degrees Celsius min. temp when applying, not as impervious to water so not many suitable for exterior work......

    I just go for cheaper the paints for diy work and have found Home base own brand fair and Crown better for a little more but would love to hear of any budget ones that give great results too! I too have used Johnsons and it was not bad, reasonably priced but prefer the other two.
  • Reece_
    Reece_ Posts: 291 Forumite
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    I much prefer water based generally, mainly for quicker drying time and staying white. Find a good quality brush helps to avoid brush marks.
    Johnstones or Leyland are my go to brands.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,557 Forumite
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    Water based dries quicker, but thats a short term benefit.

    My decorator used Dulux Trade Diamond oil based paint and whilst it takes 5-7 days to harden fully in two years it hasn't yellowed, doesn't get as dirty as water based and any marks wipe off easily.
  • adandem
    adandem Posts: 3,592 Forumite
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    I have used water based gloss for years with no issues.
    I have recently discovered Zinnser permawhite which is brilliant. It is a satin finish but it looks so much nicer than the gloss, really classic too and shows no brush marks. Working my way through the house with it now.
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,975 Forumite
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    edited 28 May 2016 at 10:20PM
    solvent based gloss stays white due to UV light, have a look at the inside of a cupboard door or the back of a bedroom door where someone hangs a dressing gown to see what I mean.
    Waterbased I would completely agree with Ainseley1's comments, a couple of points of my own to add.
    It gives a better finish if applied with a man made synthetic paint brush, it dries so fast brush marks don't run out like solvent based paint. Save your bristle brushes for another day.
    We have found thinning it with about 5% water really helps, you can brush it out more and not have to worry about getting the thick gunge you get when you try this neat.
    Current favorite is Crown, but we have used Leyland trade before and that was fine.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • onomatopoeia99
    onomatopoeia99 Posts: 7,159 Forumite
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    I use and recommend Dulux trade diamond. Three years now and no yellowing in a hallway with almost no natural light. Use the matching undercoat and primer though.
    Proud member of the wokerati, though I don't eat tofu.Home is where my books are.Solar PV 5.2kWp system, SE facing, >1% shading, installed March 2019.Mortgage free July 2023
  • freezspirit
    freezspirit Posts: 994 Forumite
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    Sorry for the delay in getting back to everyone, just a quick update I can no longer do the job myself as I've got a problem with my shoulder (bursitis) so will either have to get someone in to do the job or wait until after I get the injection in my shoulder in a month or 2.

    Can anyone give me an idea per linear meter how much to expect to pay a painter/decorator to sand then paint existing internal woodwork (hallway skirting and 6 door frames)?
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    teddysmum wrote: »
    Johnstone's has been recommended on here and B&M Bargains stock it.

    Johnstones aqau is superb, and 2 years on hasn't knocked too much inspite of my grandkids best efforts.
    Still perfectly white as I realised this year I'd missed glossing a panel of 1 six panel door.. Repainted just that 1 and you can't tell.

    It's a proper full gloss and is the most user friendly paint I've tried, it flows well and keeps a wet edge for long enough to make a greaT JOB.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
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