Do I need to buy another Apple TV?

henm2

Connect your TV with a Amazon Fire stick £35 and a free installation of Kodi and good selection of video add ons. This works out so much cheaper.

almillar

my iPhone connects to Microsoft Exchange fine

iPhone got this functionality late, and only due to pressure/competition. You forget all the years iOS didn't have those features when other OSs had - multitasking etc. Still no file transfer via bluetooth, something my Nokia had in 2003. Not a technical limitation, you just have to do things their way. Their computers are far better at interoperability these days, so it's mostly in the past, at least for OSX.

prowla

almillar wrote: »

iPhone got this functionality late, and only due to pressure/competition. You forget all the years iOS didn't have those features when other OSs had - multitasking etc. Still no file transfer via bluetooth, something my Nokia had in 2003. Not a technical limitation, you just have to do things their way. Their computers are far better at interoperability these days, so it's mostly in the past, at least for OSX.

So basically not relevant nowadays then?

As for bluetooth, I'm not sure I would want to transfer files via that.

My new car hooked up to my iPhone and allows me to make calls via bluetooth and play music stored on it.

almillar

So basically not relevant nowadays then?

You've got the feature now, but just don't get caught thinking iOS has innovated with all this stuff. How long will you have to wait for the next feature that Android phones, for example, have? They have a history of dragging their heels on some features, and that IS relevant to nowadays, and the future.

As for bluetooth, I'm not sure I would want to transfer files via that.

That's OK, but plenty of other people were kicking and screaming about it for years. Less relevant these days.

My new car hooked up to my iPhone and allows me to make calls via bluetooth and play music stored on it.

As does any other modern smartphone.

prowla

almillar wrote: »

You've got the feature now, but just don't get caught thinking iOS has innovated with all this stuff. How long will you have to wait for the next feature that Android phones, for example, have? They have a history of dragging their heels on some features, and that IS relevant to nowadays, and the future.

Sure - what I have now works.
I have an Android phone (Samsung), but it's a bit clunky, so I found it a bit difficult to get enthusiastic about.

Aside from phones, I've got a Windows tablet, but it's a dull place to be.

almillar wrote: »

That's OK, but plenty of other people were kicking and screaming about it for years. Less relevant these days.

Aye - I never needed it, so I guess it wasn't an issue. I've been happy to email photos.

almillar wrote: »

As does any other modern smartphone.

Sure, so neutral in the anti-Apple stakes then.

Johnmcl7

prowla wrote: »

I really don't get the basis of the myth that Apple products are any more closed than other brands.

It's not a myth, this very thread is a good example of that - Miracast is a standard streaming technology developed by the wi-fi alliance supported by a large number of companies including the OP's TV but not Apple who developed their own proprietary airplay standard.

Similarly with smartwatches, you can't use an Apple watch with an Android device while you can use Android Wear with an IOS device although Apple cripple some of the hardware access to third party companies which restricts the functionality, same issue with Garmin watches on IOS as well.

With regards to bluetooth, it's generally been poorly implemented on IOS devices and more recently Apple still refuse to support NFC for anything other than Apple Pay instead favouring their own proprietary system that only works between Apple devices.

I've seen people defend this approach to improve connections between systems since Apple enforce control of all of it but it's extremely strange to see someone claim it's just a myth.

John

prowla

Johnmcl7 wrote: »

It's not a myth, this very thread is a good example of that - Miracast is a standard streaming technology developed by the wi-fi alliance supported by a large number of companies including the OP's TV but not Apple who developed their own proprietary airplay standard.

Similarly with smartwatches, you can't use an Apple watch with an Android device while you can use Android Wear with an IOS device although Apple cripple some of the hardware access to third party companies which restricts the functionality, same issue with Garmin watches on IOS as well.

With regards to bluetooth, it's generally been poorly implemented on IOS devices and more recently Apple still refuse to support NFC for anything other than Apple Pay instead favouring their own proprietary system that only works between Apple devices.

I've seen people defend this approach to improve connections between systems since Apple enforce control of all of it but it's extremely strange to see someone claim it's just a myth.

John

Well, AirPlay pre-dates Miracast, so you can't blame Apple because another group of other companies got together and copied them, can you?

I've got a Western Digital NAS drive and it uses its standard.

And then you've got twonky and suchlike.

So there are plenty of methods.

As far as Bluetooth goes, the question is how far should it go? I've seen it as a mechanism for attaching peripherals, not as a general networking service, which I think it was never designed for.

If you want file transfer, use Wi-Fi.

On the watch front, I have to say that I just don't "get" the Apple watch; it seems to me to be a "because they can" product rather than something I would care to own.

I would say that the market is not yet mature regarding interoperability; we are in the phase where there are miscellaneous point solutions and competing products about; it'll be a while before there is rationalisation and things sort themselves out.

I don't think it is valid to single out one company (which actually has the widest range of products) and blame them because they're not following others.