Permitted Work

Bryando

I have recently been made aware of being able to work under 16 hours whilst on ESA support group.

I will get my current rate of ESA PLUS my wage. Will housing benefit and council tax benefit remain the same?

Thinking the permitted work road after speaking with the disability employment advisor.

Feral_Moon

No, your wages will be assessed as extra income when calculating HB and CT benefit but if you're also in receipt of DLA then there will be a disregard, reducing the amount of rent and CT payable.

Bryando

I am on DLA. Low mobility and middle care.

Bryando

I just had a look via one of the benefit calculators and appears my ESA would be reduced. I would get £98 a week ESA. Therefore I would no longer get any of the premiums I currently get on ESA.

Feral_Moon

You might be better off giving up ESA and claiming disability working tax credits instead then.

bigbill

All your wages under £115.50 weekly will be fully ignored if its permitted work while on ESA, no changes to anything including your HB.

Bryando

Thanks for that.

Cyclamen

I am rusty with permitted work.. but i think there might be a time limit for how long you can do it if you are in WRAG, i dont think it applies to support. but as i said i'm rusty on the regs ..just mentioning in case ou haven't checked.

If you can do 16 hours you could apply for working tax credits..disability element.

Alice_Holt

Some info on permitted work:

(2) Permitted work
If you are getting employment and support allowance (ESA), incapacity benefit, severe disablement allowance (SDA), national insurance credits or income support because of incapacity for work, you are allowed to do some ‘permitted work’.

You have a choice of three permitted work options, depending on your circumstances:

permitted work lower limit;
permitted work higher limit; and
supported permitted work.
Permitted work can include paid employment or self-employment.

You do not need the permission of a doctor to do permitted work, but you should tell the DWP if you are working.

For ESA, incapacity benefit and SDA, all permitted work earnings are ignored. If you are on income support, any earnings over £20 will be deducted from your income support.

Permitted work lower limit
Under this option, you can earn up to £20 a week for an unlimited period.

Permitted work higher limit
Under this option, you can earn up to £115.50 a week, after tax and national insurance deductions. The work must be for less than 16 hours a week. The earnings limit is normally increased each October. You can normally only do permitted work higher limit for up to 52 weeks. You may, however, do it without time limit if you are on ESA and have been placed in the ‘support group’.

If you have a break in your claim of more than eight weeks (or 12 weeks for ESA), you can repeat the 52-week period of permitted work higher limit. Otherwise, you can do further permitted work higher limit only after a gap of more than 52 weeks since you last did it.

Supported permitted work
This is work where you are supervised by someone who is employed by a public or local authority or community or voluntary group which provides or finds work for people with disabilities. It can also be work which is part of a treatment programme under medical supervision while you are an in-patient or regularly attending as an out-patient of a hospital or similar institution.

Supported permitted work has no restriction on the hours you work and can be for an unlimited period. You cannot earn more than £115.50 a week after tax and national insurance deductions.

From http://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/work-people-living-disability-or-health-conditions

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Bryando wrote: »

I am on DLA. Low mobility and middle care.

Don't forget you will transferred from DLA to PIP sometime this year.

Bryando

venison wrote: »

Don't forget you will transferred from DLA to PIP sometime this year.

Have been wondering when I would be asked to make a PIP application. No time was given for when my current DLA was up. So was wondering if I would be asked this year or next.