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Cesspool, cess pit or septic tank

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  • Richard_Webster
    Richard_Webster Posts: 7,646 Forumite
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    My wife as a teenager in early 1970s dug down 14 feet to construct a septic tank for the bungalow that her father was building. It was sold in 2007 and the septic tank had never been emptied!
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • Hoploz
    Hoploz Posts: 3,888 Forumite
    I viewed a house where the man had dug his own system with reed bed etc, said he'd never emptied it in 40 years!!!
  • aniahill
    aniahill Posts: 181 Forumite
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    So I should find out if it was home made (I already know it was 1975 so the provenance is good) and hopefully made by a teenager and I'll be set!

    I'm presuming things like using grey water for the garden will help and as little cleaning product in the water as possible. I do already use ecover products which I've heard is better because it's plant based. Any other hints?
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    By coincidence, I've just had mine emptied this afternoon. I say 'emptied,' but its capacity is huge, so that's never going to happen.

    It's a 1974 model, attached to what was originally a 3 bed bungalow. Goodness knows who they thought was going to be living in here; a family of elephants, perhaps?
  • aniahill
    aniahill Posts: 181 Forumite
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    Good timing for my questions! If it's such an enormous size, how do you decide when to have it "emptied"? Is it annually?

    And how do people with a more appropriate size one know when to empty it? Is it trial and error at first?
    Davesnave wrote: »
    By coincidence, I've just had mine emptied this afternoon. I say 'emptied,' but its capacity is huge, so that's never going to happen.

    It's a 1974 model, attached to what was originally a 3 bed bungalow. Goodness knows who they thought was going to be living in here; a family of elephants, perhaps?
  • Hoploz
    Hoploz Posts: 3,888 Forumite
    When we first moved in I did lots of research on septic systems, read up on this forum, and rest of the Internet. Found out all about it, grey water blah blah ... In the end I decided to just forget about it, live as normal, and get it emptied once a year as advised. We are only 18 months in, but so far there's no smell, no issues, it all just works the same as a standard plumbing system.

    The only thing the emptying man said was no bleach, and no other chemicals, eg don't put paint down it etc. The toilet cleaning products I normally use are suitable for septic systems so no need to change your life! The only thing I didn't know what to do with was some white spirit I'd cleaned some paintbrushes out with - I left it out in the sun to evaporate, and switched to water based satin for the woodwork instead
  • Davesnave
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    aniahill wrote: »
    Good timing for my questions! If it's such an enormous size, how do you decide when to have it "emptied"? Is it annually?

    And how do people with a more appropriate size one know when to empty it? Is it trial and error at first?
    We didn't have ours emptied for 5 years and it was fine, but next door, who share the same drain-field, overflowed into it through neglect and messed-up the percolation.

    They'd been not emptying for ages in the mistaken belief that "these things work best if left alone." Possibly 10 years of inaction.

    So, we had a partial empty and replaced the drainage field two years ago. We thought we were going to do a full empty then, but the lorry was too small (only 2500gallons!)

    As I've finally convinced next door that they should do some maintenance, we celebrated the 2 year milestone with another big empty today....but we still didn't get near the bottom of the tanks.

    We will reconvene in 2 years time and repeat, but I reckon we could probably get away with 3 or 4 years now. It's not worth the risk, though, given that a new drain field costs about 10x the price of a tank emptying.
  • aniahill
    aniahill Posts: 181 Forumite
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    This is great guys, thank you so much!
  • D00gie72
    D00gie72 Posts: 166 Forumite
    I bought a property recently which has a cesspit with a land drain (basically its a cesspit with a hole in it) If you have seen a bill for emptying that the previous occupier has had it may be worth phoning the company that emptied it and having a chat. Lots of people use the same emptying company all the time for their tanks - so the chances are that company will be familiar with your property and may be able to tell you exactly what you have and how frequently its emptied etc. £330 sounds a lot to me we pay £135 each time for our emptying.
  • aniahill
    aniahill Posts: 181 Forumite
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    That's a really good shout - thanks. I have a copy of the past 2 bills so I've got the company details.

    How frequently do you have it done at that price?
    D00gie72 wrote: »
    I bought a property recently which has a cesspit with a land drain (basically its a cesspit with a hole in it) If you have seen a bill for emptying that the previous occupier has had it may be worth phoning the company that emptied it and having a chat. Lots of people use the same emptying company all the time for their tanks - so the chances are that company will be familiar with your property and may be able to tell you exactly what you have and how frequently its emptied etc. £330 sounds a lot to me we pay £135 each time for our emptying.
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