CCTV in Care Homes Petition.

POPPYOSCAR

Not sure if this is the right place but did anyone see the terrible case yesterday of the appalling treatment of an ex nurse with dementia in a care home?


The family are calling for CCTV to be installed in all care homes and have set up a petition.


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114019

Person_one

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Not sure if this is the right place but did anyone see the terrible case yesterday of the appalling treatment of an ex nurse with dementia in a care home?


The family are calling for CCTV to be installed in all care homes and have set up a petition.


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114019

The intention is well meaning, but would you want to be recorded on CCTV having your incontinence pads changed, getting dressed, washed, sleeping etc?

I wouldn't, and people with dementia still have a right to their dignity and privacy as much as anybody else.

I won't be signing the petition, but if there is one calling for more training and a living wage for care home staff, as well as better staff:resident ratios and some framework for accountability so that bad staff can't just move around from job to job, then I will happily sign that one.

converted

Person_one wrote: »

The intention is well meaning, but would you want to be recorded on CCTV having your incontinence pads changed, getting dressed, washed, sleeping etc?

I wouldn't, and people with dementia still have a right to their dignity and privacy as much as anybody else.

I won't be signing the petition, but if there is one calling for more training and a living wage for care home staff, as well as better staff:resident ratios and some framework for accountability so that bad staff can't just move around from job to job, then I will happily sign that one.

100% agree with the this.

Georgiegirl256

Person_one wrote: »

The intention is well meaning, but would you want to be recorded on CCTV having your incontinence pads changed, getting dressed, washed, sleeping etc?

I wouldn't, and people with dementia still have a right to their dignity and privacy as much as anybody else.

I won't be signing the petition, but if there is one calling for more training and a living wage for care home staff, as well as better staff:resident ratios and some framework for accountability so that bad staff can't just move around from job to job, then I will happily sign that one.

Totally agree with ALL you have said above.

peachyprice

Nope, absolutely not.

These cases, although tragic, are the exception you cannot deny the majority of residents their right to privacy and dignity based on that.

Having had a close relative in a care home I would have hated the thought that she had no privacy in what was her home.

Mrshaworth2b

Person_one wrote: »

The intention is well meaning, but would you want to be recorded on CCTV having your incontinence pads changed, getting dressed, washed, sleeping etc?

I wouldn't, and people with dementia still have a right to their dignity and privacy as much as anybody else.

I won't be signing the petition, but if there is one calling for more training and a living wage for care home staff, as well as better staff:resident ratios and some framework for accountability so that bad staff can't just move around from job to job, then I will happily sign that one.

Although I agree with what you have said I also think cctv would be helpful in safeguarding the residents, you put your trust in the care home staff to care for your relative/friend and cctv is sometimes the only way of having evidence that abuse is happening.

I'm sure we would all love to see what you have suggested but unfortunately it's probaly more likely that cctvs would be installed than what you have suggested.

I know I would not like my children to see me in the way you have described and would like to keep my dignity, I would also not like to be abused day in day out and no one know about it or able to prove it. I think that is just as bad.

Just want to say, I wont be signing, I don't feel strongly enough about it however just wanted to say I can see the other side

Marvel1

Sorry not signing, my Nan lived in one and had her final hours resting there in bed, this is a private moment for family.

WeAreGhosts

I would welcome CCTV in the communal areas of care homes, but not individual rooms or bathrooms.

I have a relative in a care home which has been judged 'Inadequate' by CQC. Unfortunately I don't have power of attorney and so cannot have her moved. Having CCTV in communal areas would mean any problems could be reviewed by management and the safeguarding team and lessons learnt (you'd hope).

SmallL

Some times when I worked as a carer I wanted to film the abuse I got from patients. Even knowing they have severe mental issues when they are saying 'I want to put my p**** up your c*** ' would still be shocking. I have been punched when I have turned my back to leave and been grabbed so tightly it left bruises. But I still wouldn't really want relatives to see this side of them, it's not dignified and it's not the person they knew. Cctv will not solve anything, paying a decent wage to the compassionate and dedicated carers will.

susancs

SmallL wrote: »

Some times when I worked as a carer I wanted to film the abuse I got from patients. Even knowing they have severe mental issues when they are saying 'I want to put my p**** up your c*** ' would still be shocking. I have been punched when I have turned my back to leave and been grabbed so tightly it left bruises. But I still wouldn't really want relatives to see this side of them, it's not dignified and it's not the person they knew. Cctv will not solve anything, paying a decent wage to the compassionate and dedicated carers will.

I really admire staff who work with patients who have dementia after a short time in hospital. As the only bed available was on the elderly care ward, I was put in there for IV treatment a couple of years ago. I used to hear the awful things that were said to staff. I commented to a lovely nurse who I had heard being called nasty racial names by the woman in the bed next door, that I wondered how she had to put up with this. She smiled cheerfully and said "Oh I know it is just the illness". The patients son was a lovely man and never knew how awful she was to the staff when he was not there. Watching her on CCTV treating staff like that would have been awful for him.

seven-day-weekend

Person_one wrote: »

The intention is well meaning, but would you want to be recorded on CCTV having your incontinence pads changed, getting dressed, washed, sleeping etc?

I wouldn't, and people with dementia still have a right to their dignity and privacy as much as anybody else.

I won't be signing the petition, but if there is one calling for more training and a living wage for care home staff, as well as better staff:resident ratios and some framework for accountability so that bad staff can't just move around from job to job, then I will happily sign that one.

I do agree with this, but don't think it's lack of money that makes people behave in such an appalling fashion.