How can I make my planning consent live?

tonyh66

htrj wrote: »

Tony was nearly right but not quite.

I already have a legal right of way across some land but there are some neighbours in a nearby field who, without putting too fine a point on it, own a company called something along the lines of "Smiths Tarmac and Driveways" who may find themselves occupying the land I have the ROW over. Whilst I believe everyone should have a right to live how they wish providing they remain respectful to each other I would prefer not to have to approach my home via a,,,, ermm,,, how can I phrase this,,, Tarmac and Driveway specialists yard. The current ROW is by far preferable to the proposed but reapplying for its planning consent later could be risky and would certainly add to the overall expense. As I say above I really don't want to go into too much detail in such a public forum.

I have a meeting with Highways tomorrow to help fill out the s278 then I should be able to make a plan to at least begin work. As mentioned above I still suspect the physical construction of this driveway will be the cheapest part of the project and will at least give me the peace of mind that I can use it when and if I wish.

I thnk your probably wise to do the access, I wouldn't like to have to drive through a carpark full of UPVC salesmen and Tarmac specialists either.

htrj

Thought someone might agree with me on this... Dont think UPVC is their bag but I think the son has a neat sideline in scrap metal or tree surgery or something like that. I certainly would not want to appear prejudiced against Tarmac specialist's, tree surgeons, UPVC salesman or scrap metal dealers however.....

the_r_sole wrote: »

Why do you have planning permission for something that you don't ever want to use?

Has this answered your question Mr 'Sole?

undaunted

Call me idealistic or unrealistic but shouldn't your Council be spending it's time ensuring that no unauthorised use of this land is made / maintained rather than worrying about you planning around it?




Otherwise I'd have thought you just needed to contact your Local Council to apply for an extension / renewal

htrj

Who said anything about un authorised use?

System

htrj wrote: »

Has this answered your question Mr 'Sole?

Not really, you have a right of way so you have a right of way, why did you decide to get a planning permission for an alternative access three years ago?
Surely if you were worried about someone making the right of access awkward more three years ago and they still haven't then it's not a huge worry?
If you never have any intention of using the permission why not let it lapse and then reapply if you ever want to built it, the planning history of a site is a material consideration and having planning permission in perpetuity doesn't seem like it has any practical use for you (much like the planning permission)

htrj

Mr R Sole,

You are right, I have a ROW. But, would you prefer to access your home via, for instance, a tree lined grass verged stone covered driveway or, for arguments sake, the recently dispersed "Jungle" at Calais? I'm not suggesting that either my current access or the proposed access is one or the other of those but people have preferences.

Also planning committees grant applications on their merits. In the event that an application ruffled a few feathers on that committee would you not think that those ruffled feathers that were, at best, dissappointed that this application were granted might have new arguments at the time of reapplying had the first consent not been implemented?

Thirdly, I have never suggested that the future for my current access is a huge worry neither have I suggested that a threat is imminent. Do you consider that a threat that may not be imminent is not present?

System

htrj wrote: »

Mr R Sole,

You are right, I have a ROW. But, would you prefer to access your home via, for instance, a tree lined grass verged stone covered driveway or, for arguments sake, the recently dispersed "Jungle" at Calais? I'm not suggesting that either my current access or the proposed access is one or the other of those but people have preferences.

Also planning committees grant applications on their merits. In the event that an application ruffled a few feathers on that committee would you not think that those ruffled feathers that were, at best, dissappointed that this application were granted might have new arguments at the time of reapplying had the first consent not been implemented?

Thirdly, I have never suggested that the future for my current access is a huge worry neither have I suggested that a threat is imminent. Do you consider that a threat that may not be imminent is not present?

If there is no worry, why have you paid to prepare and submit a planning application and why are you looking to secure the planning in the future? - you obviously feel that there is a worry about the right of way, otherwise you are throwing time and money at nothing - I have never heard of anyone getting planning for an alternative access to their property for no apparently reason.
If you access application has been decided at committee then there is more to this than you are letting on, there is clearly more to the situation around the permission and why you have it in the first place...

anyway, the answer is:
1. address any pre-start conditions
2. take advice from the local authority planning officer about what work would constitute a meaningful start
3. Carry out said work
4. Get a letter from the planning officer to confirm that a meaningful start has been made

very straightforward.