New build property for full time residents only

CLAPTON

stator wrote: »

This type of ban should be introduced for the whole of Devon and Cornwall

why not everywhere there is a shortage of affordable housing?

wotsthat

PasturesNew wrote: »

It's only people with those things that think others are "green with envy". The people assumed green are looking and thinking "what an ugly blot on the landscape, bet the arrogant tw4t that owns it's barely there more than 2-3 weekends a year".

They alter the view, the landscape, the character. It'll no longer "look like Cornwall" if it's full of bold shiny glass-walled £500-600k flats in blocks. Might as well go somewhere else, anywhere else, if everywhere looks the same.

Most of the places knocked down or refurbished were eyesores anyway. I think they're unique as they look down on St Ives itself (which will look the same in 50 years emmits or not) and over to Hayle. Possibly one of the best views in the UK.

I've not got one and I'm well gel!

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

why not everywhere there is a shortage of affordable housing?

My wild guess would be his backyard is in Devon or Cornwall.

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

why not everywhere there is a shortage of affordable housing?

Affordable housing is already (frequently) subject to local connection requirements.

What St Ives is proposing has nothing to do with that.

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

Affordable housing is already (frequently) subject to local connection requirements.

What St Ives is proposing has nothing to do with that.

The proposal was related to the difficulty of 'local' buying property.
Sometimes that concept is expressed as a lack of 'affordable' housing.

I was questioning whether in all places where local people had difficulty buying then such a scheme should be introduced.

For the avoidance of doubt, I consider the idea absurd as is the St Ives situation.

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

The proposal was related to the difficulty of 'local' buying property.
Sometimes that concept is expressed as a lack of 'affordable' housing.

I was questioning whether in all places where local people had difficulty buying then such a scheme should be introduced.

For the avoidance of doubt, I consider the idea absurd as is the St Ives situation.

The point would be that the St Ives proposal is not related to the "difficulty of 'local' buying property". It's related to the (alleged) difficulties caused by the prevalence of second homes.

HornetSaver

westernpromise wrote: »

I couldn't afford to buy in St Johns Wood but you don't hear me !!!!!ing about it.

That's a first.

PasturesNew wrote:

But St Ives is in the Duchy - and - nobody's found the paperwork that says Cornwall belongs to England. It was simply "assumed and counted in with the rest of England", but the actual paperwork "giving it up" has not been produced.

A bit like Doncaster.

Or the decades-long war between Berwick-upon-Tweed and Russia.

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

The point would be that the St Ives proposal is not related to the "difficulty of 'local' buying property". It's related to the (alleged) difficulties caused by the prevalence of second homes.

possibly or possibly not

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36248019

St Ives held the vote after a surge in holiday homes and a shortage of affordable housing. Mayor Linda Taylor told Daily Politics presenter Jo Coburn there had been "absolutely enormous" international interest in the vote, and it was not the only town to suffer the problem.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/03/st-ives-second-home-referendum-financial-cleansing

Ask around the town, where the most recent figures show that 25% of housing is owned by non-residents, and local people all seem to have experience of the pressure on housing.

“When we were looking to buy we couldn’t afford St Ives,” says Melanie Uys, who runs an art gallery in the town. “There are no family homes at affordable prices. My friends who rent are always in a vulnerable position because landlords can bring in twice as much money for the summer months, so they only get very short-term lets. It’s steadily got worse. St Ives looks so perfect, but scratch the surface and it’s got a lot of problems.”

antrobus

PasturesNew wrote: »

But St Ives is in the Duchy -

I don't think "St Ives is in the Duchy". Well, some of it might be. But clearly a great deal of it is owned by somebody else.

The Duchy of Cornwall is not the same as the County of Cornwall. The Duchy of Cornwall is simply the estate of the Duke of Cornwall (i.e. his nibs Charlie boy at the moment) most of it isn't even in Cornwall. In fact I think most of its in Devon.

PasturesNew wrote: »

... and - nobody's found the paperwork that says Cornwall belongs to England. It was simply "assumed and counted in with the rest of England", but the actual paperwork "giving it up" has not been produced.

Nobody's found the paperwork that says London belongs to England. Come to think of it, I think the same applies to everywhere in England. If you go down that road, you'll end up having to give back the whole country to the Welsh.

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

possibly or possibly not....

No, there's no doubt about it, you just have to read the actual plan

https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/12861065/Appendix-2-St-Ives-Area-Neighbourhood-Development-Plan-Submission-Draft.pdf