New Yaris

linni

How many people actually look at the full handbook anyway ?

I love reading the handbook when I get a newer car. I like to know how to use everything.

Iceweasel

David_Aston wrote: »

Your so right about the spare tyre almillar. I did make a point about buying one for our previous Jazz, and then retaining it when we traded in.
Now, it has dawned on me that I likely wouldn't have the strength to change it myself anyway!
Ok, the AA or whoever turns out for the warranty would be doing it I guess.
Also, is it not the case that if you use the Gunk, that is provided with cars now, for a temporary repair, the tyre has to be scrapped anyway?

My wheels are different sizes front and rear and weigh around 25kg.

No way is Mrs Iceweasel going to change one of those.

We have a spacesaver spare and carry a large garden refuse sack to put the dirty (and invariably wet) punctured wheel in.

And NO - a tyre with the sealant in it does not have to be scrapped.

The normal criteria for repairing it applies - amount of damage and position of puncture etc.

Tyre fitters hate it though and want to charge extra or tell you it has to be scrapped.

After you've been fleeced for the price of a new tyre they then take their time to wash it all out and repair it - to sell as a part-worn.

Same problem with runflats - some fitters won't touch them - just dismiss them out of hand without an inspection.

StaffieTerrier

My Yaris (registered Feb 2016) has an owners manual in the glove box. There's minimal instructions on how to use the Touch 2 system in it. The full user guide for the Touch 2 is available online, along with the car user manual

Herzlos

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Why, though? It's a perfectly reasonable response to 'I don't have internet guv'.

The percentage of people who can honestly say they are without *any* access to the internet, whether at home (14% of households didn't in 2015), at work (the number of businesses without internet connectivity must be vanishingly small), or via a mobile device cannot be that high; and for those who really do not, libraries and internet cafes are good options.

Work, libraries and internet cafes aren't particularly handy when you're at the side of the road trying to figure something out.

That said, I'm sure you'd be able to get a print-out from somewhere (maybe the dealer will throw it in as part of the deal?)

BeenThroughItAll

Herzlos wrote: »

Work, libraries and internet cafes aren't particularly handy when you're at the side of the road trying to figure something out.

That said, I'm sure you'd be able to get a print-out from somewhere (maybe the dealer will throw it in as part of the deal?)

I never said they were. I was addressing the part of the post talking about them, I have no opinion on the handbook question.

almillar

Now, it has dawned on me that I likely wouldn't have the strength to change it myself anyway!

First think I'd ask someone that demands one is 'when's the last time you changed one'. Even more of a point when we're talking about big wheels.

Also, is it not the case that if you use the Gunk, that is provided with cars now, for a temporary repair, the tyre has to be scrapped anyway?

I've heard that, but I've also heard that it's just really messy and tyre fitters don't want to waste their time cleaning it out for a repair, when it's more profitable and less time consuming to sell a new tyre.
I've never used it, and I would always recommend pumping the tyre with the compressor, and driving on it if it'll hold air for any time at all.

I love reading the handbook when I get a newer car. I like to know how to use everything.

Me too.

Work, libraries and internet cafes aren't particularly handy when you're at the side of the road trying to figure something out.

Hopefully you know how to work the important parts of your car before you set off.

k3lvc

Strider590 wrote: »

Having recently taken a trip to Wales and seen more Yaris's than I ever want to see in my life again, I can say with some authority that most Yaris drivers are unlikely to even know how to access the internet.

Unfortunately experience says that at least one of them has access to t'interweb :rotfl:

nimbo

Iceweasel wrote: »

Not all - but certainly many.

Whether it's good, bad, wrong or a useful thing is up to the individual.

My BMW handbook is available both on-line and displayed on the dashboard sat-nav screen.

Likewise no service booklet to be stamped - all on-line.

No spare wheel - no jack - no tools.

What else can we do without - a driver perhaps - that's coming too.

My new Yaris has a spare tyre. A real one. And a jack.

No CD player though.

gilbert_and_sullivan

Seems an odd thing given the car in question, Yaris, Jazz etc just as likely to be bought by the retired (and many do not do t'internet) as the young, sounds as cheap skate as putting a bottle of goo and toy pump in the spare wheel well...don't know if Yaris gets bottle of goo or not, just putting the point across.

Still whilst people put up with this rubbish and still buy products, these practices will continue.
An online handbook (for those who don't do smartphones), or bottle of tyre goo with split tyre, will be equally useless on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.

Car_54

dcouponzzzz wrote: »

The handbook may be online, the logbook will still be with the car.

Logbook?

What is a logbook?