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CCJ for Waste Removal after house sale?????

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  • Ellen016
    Ellen016 Posts: 22 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    How many of us have found stuff left by previous occupants?

    I certainly have and had it been the stuff mentioned by OP I would have put on facebook or freecycle that there are fence panels and a bed available to anyone who wanted to collect for free. I would have then stuck the black bags in the wheelie bin and thought no more of it.


    We did. When we moved into our house they had left bin bags in the dining room full of junk, a plate on the floor covered in cat food and various other bits and pieces! Yuk! We took the bits to the tip, cleaned thoroughly and carried on :)
  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
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    Is this a joke?
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2016 at 1:40PM
    wwl wrote: »
    Some councils will collect large waste items for free. If this is the case in the area concerned, there may be an argument that they have failed to mitigate the costs by not using this service.

    ...and others will expect to charge "through the nose". I know - as I have a Council like that and it was cheaper to pay a "little man" to take some substantial items of rubbish I had away (a properly regulated "little man" I hasten to add....).

    Come on...it's only £220 that OP's "friend" is being charged for this. Hardly the end of the world and personally I think they would be fully entitled to charge for their time in dealing with the matter (and I'd probably have thrown in, say, 4 hours x £20 per hour for my labour for having had to do that work).
  • lincroft1710
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    ...and others will expect to charge "through the nose". I know - as I have a Council like that and it was cheaper to pay a "little man" to take some substantial items of rubbish I had away (a properly regulated "little man" I hasten to add....).

    Come on...it's only £220 that OP's "friend" is being charged for this. .

    It's actually £450 and my council would have charged no more than £60.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2016 at 2:29PM
    Whew - one even dearer than my current one!

    Quick check back - and yep...£450 to clarify. Still not a vast amount in the grand scheme of things...

    OP doesnt seem to be taking account of the fact though that people are entitled not to have extra "work" thrown onto their shoulders by someone irresponsible and is just trying and trying to wriggle out of paying for that.

    In the buyers position I would certainly be taking the easiest/cheapest option to deal with this - as it's a problem the vendor shouldnt have "landed" the buyer with in the first place and they are absolutely entitled to minimise the amount of disruption its causing to their Life.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Thank you for explaining, assuming OP's story is correct and the amount of rubbish not understated, is £220 for moving a bed, 2 bags and few fence panels from A-B on the same property not excessive?

    To me, either there was more rubbish, the buyer is claiming more than paid or somebody really overcharged the buyer to move the rubbish.



    Well skip hire for 1 day will be more than a daily rate on a weeks hire, so £220 seems reasonable (or £230 whatever it was)


    So really it's about labour. - yes it seems there is some element of punitive cost in there (and to be frank there should be on a moral level)


    but legally the OPs friend may be able to drop that down in court. (but then of course add on the court fees on top...)
  • Mallotum_X
    Mallotum_X Posts: 2,591 Forumite
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    offer to pay for the skip in full and final, they may accept that and move on
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2016 at 4:41PM
    I hired a 6 yard skip for a couple of days 4 years ago and it came at £220 +£45 for the on-street permit.

    Anyway, I think this is a red herring. The point is the seller was clearly in breach of contract and that the buyer acted reasonably by first asking for the breach to be remedied then by cleaning the mess by reasonable means when this wasn't done.

    The bottom line is (1) don't leave the property full of trash, and (2) don't take the p*ss by saying that you'll clear it "when you have time".
  • pinkshoes
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    chopsmcgee wrote: »
    Greetings!

    The sale of a colleagues house went through three or four weeks ago. Upon moving in, the new owner contacted my colleagues solicitor to say there was waste still on the property. This consisted of;

    - Fence panels in the garden,
    - two bags of rubbish
    - 1 old bed.

    The solicitor informed my colleague that he would need to clear the items, which he agreed to do but at present did not have time. Now, some 10 days (ish) later, he has been hit with a CCJ for around £450, which was to cover the costs of;

    - Skip hire £230
    - Labour costs £220.

    Personally I cannot believe that this is even happening, it seems absolutely rediculous. But, it seems he has to pay?

    Can anyone offer any advice on how this can be handled?

    Is he entitled to ask for reciepts as proof?

    Does he have to pay?

    W"hat happens if he doesnt pay?

    As always help appreciated!:beer:

    The skip hire is reasonable, although not really needed for a bed, a couple of bags and some fence panels.

    The buyer could have easily paid £30 for the council to take it away, and put the rubbish in the weelie bin. Fence panels could have been freecycled.

    But alas his buyer decided be an*l about it, and your collegue chose to be arrogant rather than helpful and apologetic.

    The labour seems excessive. I would pay the skip hire and £50 for labour. It would not take more than a couple of hours to put those items in the skip.
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

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  • TBagpuss
    TBagpuss Posts: 11,237 Forumite
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    pinkshoes wrote: »

    The buyer could have easily paid £30 for the council to take it away, and put the rubbish in the weelie bin. Fence panels could have been freecycled.

    Assuming that the buyers could physically get the bed etc to the kerb for the council to collect, and had the time and know-how to freecycle the panels (assuming they were in good enough condition)

    Why should the buyer have the extra hassle if paying someone to take it all away straight away is more convenient for them?
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
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