Exhausted all possible avenues.

davidplans

I have exhausted all possible avenues with the learning disability team with regards to this Community Treatment Order I'm on. Gone down the second opinion psychiatrist and to PALS advocacy service as well as Mind and got nowhere with them. I feel like my back is towards a wall. I'm forced medicated. Last Wednesday I refused my depot injection and on the Thursday the LD psychiatrist recalled my CTO and called the police who took me back to hospital in the back of a police van to have the injection, I was complement because I knew I would get restrained. This has completely ruined our relationship with the various teams involved in my care.

Do I have any other options apart from running away?

Ames

The one option you have and don't seem to have tried is to comply with the treatment and give it a chance to work.

Running away really isn't an option.

davidplans

I have tried for 4 years now and it's like one endless hoop.

DomRavioli

davidplans wrote: »

I have tried for 4 years now and it's like one endless hoop.

In the nicest way possible, I've been under MH for 23 years. Take the treatment - you're still under a section (albeit a community treatment order) and one more stunt like that and you will be back in secure inpatient care, on a more severe section.

You seem so hell bent on sabotage through any means. If you aren't getting on with your meds, or are having problems, you HAVE to tell your care team. They aren't mind readers and have hundreds of patients.

If you really want to get out of your section, you comply with treatment, you get better, and then they take it off. Then you can travel freely (with some restrictions as some foreign countries won't take anyone who has had a section) and get on with life instead of this 4 year circle.

If you do the same things, you get the same result. Stop dreaming, start doing things that will help you.

davidplans

In all honestly I haven't got anything wrong me mentally so I don't need the medication, this is just to subdue my spirituality.

Ames

Two and a half weeks ago I went to A&E because I had self harmed and was having suicidal thoughts. I was told off for wasting their time because the NHS can only afford to treat people who are ill enough to need to be an inpatient. I went home and ended up pouring boiling water over my arm because it was the only way to dampen down the bad thoughts.

Believe me, they wouldn't be spending money on treatment orders, daily injections and calling the police just because of what religion you follow.

If you're not getting on with your anti psychotics then they can try a different one.

I do understand how you feel. It's hard being told you're ill, especially when you don't recognise yourself in the diagnosis you've been given. But it really seems that you're on your last chance now and if you don't cooperate you'll be sectioned.

davidplans

What's the worst that can happen if I sectioned? I'll be in hospital. The hospital I'm taken too isn't some kind of acute psychiatric hospital but a learning disability hospital which I've been too 9 times now in 6 years, the staff are lovely and it's more of a residential home then a hospital so I have no objections to being sectioned and they know that! What I do object to is being given antipsychotic medication forcibly through a monthly injection against my will and if I refuse the police will be called to take me to hospital again against my will to be injected.

I know for a fact that I'be put on 6 stone (21 stone now) through the various antipsychotics and mood stabilisers they've put me off throughout the 6 years I've been under learning disability services. I'm really overweight. Believe me I have tried losing some off it. I also think I have Tardive Dyskinesia from strong antipsychotic use because of the spasms in my left upper arm, the psychiatrist said it starts in the face/lips first so that's not the cause.

I basically have no choice with regards to my living situation being in supported living with 24/7 staff support, they make it really difficult for me to move out because the community treatment order states that I must live at this address and even if I go away for one night without telling the staff they report me missing to the police and there has been three occasions where the police have brought me back here forcible under threat of section 136. It's embarrassing

DomRavioli

davidplans wrote: »

In all honestly I haven't got anything wrong me mentally so I don't need the medication, this is just to subdue my spirituality.

But you do - you've been clinically diagnosed, and I think you may be having some delusions. Please speak to someone urgently.

DomRavioli

davidplans wrote: »

What's the worst that can happen if I sectioned? I'll be in hospital. The hospital I'm taken too isn't some kind of acute psychiatric hospital but a learning disability hospital which I've been too 9 times now in 6 years, the staff are lovely and it's more of a residential home then a hospital so I have no objections to being sectioned and they know that! What I do object to is being given antipsychotic medication forcibly through a monthly injection against my will and if I refuse the police will be called to take me to hospital again against my will to be injected.

I know for a fact that I'be put on 6 stone (21 stone now) through the various antipsychotics and mood stabilisers they've put me off throughout the 6 years I've been under learning disability services. I'm really overweight. Believe me I have tried losing some off it. I also think I have Tardive Dyskinesia from strong antipsychotic use because of the spasms in my left upper arm, the psychiatrist said it starts in the face/lips first so that's not the cause.

I basically have no choice with regards to my living situation being in supported living with 24/7 staff support, they make it really difficult for me to move out because the community treatment order states that I must live at this address and even if I go away for one night without telling the staff they report me missing to the police and there has been three occasions where the police have brought me back here forcible under threat of section 136. It's embarrassing

Then stop trying to leave.

It is pretty apparent you would not be compliant with medication without a section in place, that is why you are under one, and will continue to be under one for the foreseeable future.

And no, you lack the mental capacity to live freely in the community, hence the section you are under; that is why you cannot leave, you cannot go anywhere for a period of time without prior written consent.

You wouldn't be on anti-psychotics if you didn't need them, especially intravenous. You cannot be trusted to take your meds, nor to follow simple instructions with your wellbeing in mind, so you have no freedom until you can either learn or be medicated enough to do those things.

I'm sorry that you don't understand the basics of this - but no amount of kicking off, refusing meds, doing a runner or anything else will get this removed. The ONLY way to get it removed is to be compliant. If you can't do that, they will keep renewing it.

faerielight

I'm on a truck load of psychiatric medication, including mood stabilisers and anti psychotics(40 tablets a day) and I understand that the side effect is weight gain. I have gone from 9 stone to 16 1/2 and I hate being overweight, but I hate being paranoid , delusional and suicidal more. I used to be made to have injections, but I comply with taking my meds because it the better of the two scenarios. It took me years to come to terms with my diagnosis (BPD) but you need to somehow try and do the same. Trust the meds to stabilise you and talk to your mental health worker. The more you kick back against it, the more stressful and frustrating it will be. I wish you well in your recovery. I have disabilities so I can't exercise which makes it really hard for me to lose weight. Try and move more, find an exercise you like. I used to love kick boxing to get my stress out, and yoga to calm myself. You could always join a weight loss group such as slimming world. I used to go and there were people on meds that had mental health issues.There;s a slimming world thread in the health and beauty section of MSE. The more you kick back against it, the more stressful and frustrating it will be. I wish you well in your recovery. I hope you find peace with your diagnosis and meds.

Confuseddot

Ames wrote: »

Two and a half weeks ago I went to A&E because I had self harmed and was having suicidal thoughts. I was told off for wasting their time because the NHS can only afford to treat people who are ill enough to need to be an inpatient. I went home and ended up pouring boiling water over my arm because it was the only way to dampen down the bad thoughts.

Believe me, they wouldn't be spending money on treatment orders, daily injections and calling the police just because of what religion you follow.

If you're not getting on with your anti psychotics then they can try a different one.

I do understand how you feel. It's hard being told you're ill, especially when you don't recognise yourself in the diagnosis you've been given. But it really seems that you're on your last chance now and if you don't cooperate you'll be sectioned.

Sorry to hear this Ames, are you feeling better now ? Do you have support of a community mental health team or doctors or someone ? It's a shame A&E weren't very understanding, in most cases you wouldn't be there is there was another option. We have a crisis centre, do you have anywhere like that where you could go when you feeling so bad to keep yourself safe ?