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Anyone got an Agreement For Painting A Room?

One of my tenants wants to repaint the room they're in. I've got no problem with this but i'd like an agreement i can get them to sign that'll cover me in case of them doing a poor job or damage. Anyone got such an agreement already or a link to one? Or maybe just any advice.

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  • nkkingston
    nkkingston Posts: 488 Forumite
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    Under the terms of the tenancy agreement you should already have something about returning the property to the state it was let in. So he can paint it, but you need it back as it was when the tenancy started or you'll deduct the cost of repainting from his deposit.
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  • tigaruk
    tigaruk Posts: 21 Forumite
    I do have that, but to be honest i have no issue with them painting it and it staying that color (it'll be a neutral color). I just want to cover myself for any damage they may cause and to create an additional agreement saying in this instance painting it is okay.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    You don't HAVE to deduct the cost, if you choose not to. So if he repaints it, and does a shoddy job, the cost of returning it to the standard it was in before (less wear'n'tear) is already covered. If he repaints it and does a good job, you simply don't charge him.

    If you do charge him, then you cannot charge the full cost of redecoration, because that would be betterment. If you say that paintwork should be re-done every five years (wet-finger-in-air), and it's two years since it was last done, you can only claim for 60% of the cost. BUT if there's any remedial work required because of the shoddy painting, that wouldn't be required on a simple re-paint, then you can charge for the full cost of that. Likewise if they spilled paint on the carpet - a cheap contract-quality carpet, say five year life. Two year old? 60%. Even if they upturned the entire tin into the middle of it.
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    If you do charge him, then you cannot charge the full cost of redecoration, because that would be betterment.

    Unless this is an express term of the agreement.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Unless this is an express term of the agreement.
    Good luck in persuading the deposit protection people that that was a fair term.
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Good luck in persuading the deposit protection people that that was a fair term.

    Not at all. Especially in the current scenario that would be a specifically negotiated term, and it is not an outlandish term, so there is no argument to deem it unfair.

    If a landlord suspects that a deposit scheme will not uphold standard contract law then he can always go directly to court.

    All of the above assumes a problem with the tenant not carrying out his contractual obligations, of course.
  • bobbymotors
    bobbymotors Posts: 746 Forumite
    just say no.

    i fell for this one years ago, and then couldn't get the blue they had used to do any scuff repainting.

    so now mine are white. plain boring, easily repaintable white.

    it the finest way
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,490 Forumite
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    tigaruk wrote: »
    ...i can get them to sign that'll cover me in case of them doing a poor job...

    Who will decide whether it's a poor job and how? (And how will you express that in the contract?)

    If you say it's a poor job, but the tenant says it's a good job...
  • tigaruk
    tigaruk Posts: 21 Forumite
    So does anyone have anything prewritten or should i just state a list of terms and conditions and get the tenant to sign them?
  • BrassicWoman
    BrassicWoman Posts: 3,220 Forumite
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    you should just let them get on with it. paper won't really protect you.
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