Storage heaters with asbestos

Risteard

EssexExile wrote: »

In storage heaters?

No. I didn't say in NSH, although it was used in them in the past. A list of all models with ACMs in them is availble on the web.

brightontraveller

Never heard of that model containing asbestos but if you’re in any doubt you can easily check with manufacture? £700 sounds like someone’s pulling a fast one

http://www.stop-think-asbestos.co.uk/pdf_downloads/GAS_ELECTRICALAPPLICANCESLIST.pdf

http://www.storageheaters.com/asbestos-list.htm

http://www.aic.org.uk/storage-heaters-asbestos/

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/landlords/070612-gas-asbestos-materials.pdf


plenty of others too
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Gas+and+electric+applia+nces+known+to+contain+asbestos+containing+materials&gws_rd=cr

lush_walrus

Check whether they do contain Asbestos first by all means and then employ someone who is trained in its removal.

As for those advising to remove it yourself, it depends how much you value your own life. Only you will know if it is worth risking yourself.

FYI - Asbestos is not an issue in itself, left undisturbed it does not harm and is in many houses still. Disturb it and it breaks down into fibres that the naked eye can not see. Those fibres when breathed in are fatal. Lungs can not dislodge them - ever. So they inbed into the lung. It most certainly does not just affect workmen although of course it is a higher risk, have a Google of the fait of the original cast of the Wizard of Oz who were filmed in snow made of asbestos.

My opinion, do not risk it. And do not rely on stories on here to make that decision. It's not a place to cut corners or safe money.

Biggles

Fruittea wrote: »

my old style storage heaters will need to be specially disposed of as they have asbestos in them.

No, they won't. None of the lists of asbestos-containing storage heaters list the Creda 79161. In fact, it rather looks as though Creda stopped using asbestos in 1975.

The reason your electrician wants to charge so much is the same reason you didn't want to remove them - the weight.

Also I'm thinking of replacing them with timed panel heaters instead of renewing with new style storage - I'd appreciate any views on this.

So, the ones using full price electricity? They cost a fortune to run.

TheCyclingProgrammer

lush_walrus wrote: »

Check whether they do contain Asbestos first by all means and then employ someone who is trained in its removal.

As for those advising to remove it yourself, it depends how much you value your own life. Only you will know if it is worth risking yourself.

FYI - Asbestos is not an issue in itself, left undisturbed it does not harm and is in many houses still. Disturb it and it breaks down into fibres that the naked eye can not see. Those fibres when breathed in are fatal. Lungs can not dislodge them - ever. So they inbed into the lung. It most certainly does not just affect workmen although of course it is a higher risk, have a Google of the fait of the original cast of the Wizard of Oz who were filmed in snow made of asbestos.

My opinion, do not risk it. And do not rely on stories on here to make that decision. It's not a place to cut corners or safe money.

A quick Google tells me that no cast member from Tge Wizard of Oz died of any asbestos-related illness.

Nick_C

lush_walrus wrote: »

As for those advising to remove it yourself, it depends how much you value your own life. Only you will know if it is worth risking yourself.

My opinion, do not risk it. And do not rely on stories on here to make that decision. It's not a place to cut corners or safe money.

With suitable PPE, (and I said I used a disposable paper suit, respirator, goggles, and gloves) I would certainly do the job again. I was certainly less at risk than I was with those flaky old asbestos mats in the chem lab at school.

And my lungs are fine.

OP, if you are going to do the job yourself, have a look at the advice on the HSE website (which is for professionals working with asbestos).

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a31.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/em8.pdf

EssexExile

More importantly, wear a back support when lifting the bricks.

Fruittea

Thanks for all the really useful advice. I'll go through the sites and check things out. I've got plenty of time to do things one brick at a time. To think I just took the others apart but I didn't see any asbestos. Won't hurt to double check with the manufacturers details though.
I also think I might stick with the NSH as I'm on quite a good rate. If anyone has a recommendation please speak up.
Also thanks for the comments that £700 is a lot of cash. So I'll shop around. The builder is known to be good but expensive and he prices up and the farms the work out. So I'll ask around.
Thanks once again - it's been a great help.

Fruittea

Quick update: I just checked all the model numbers and none of them have asbestos in. Thanks Everyone you just saved me £700. Virtual drinks on me and a lot of stress off my back.

lush_walrus

Nick_C wrote: »

With suitable PPE, (and I said I used a disposable paper suit, respirator, goggles, and gloves) I would certainly do the job again. I was certainly less at risk than I was with those flaky old asbestos mats in the chem lab at school.

And my lungs are fine.

OP, if you are going to do the job yourself, have a look at the advice on the HSE website (which is for professionals working with asbestos).

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a31.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/em8.pdf

We all choose what risks we take in life, personally having sat through training for spotting Asbestos I would not risk it myself nor would I want to recommend someone else take that risk. You will not know the damage immediately that is why so many have been affected by exposure many years ago.