Life in prosperous independant nations - awfull? 'Isolated' Irrelevant'?

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

it would seem your sole and only criteria is growth
not per capita growth
or quality/quantity of housing per capita
or quality /quantity of transport system per capita
or access to health care
or acces to beautiful uncrowded open spaces
or ....... any quality of life considerations
your one and only concern it 'growth'

the per capita GDPppp for the high migration countries like Canada/Aus/NZ has done a lot better than the low migration Japan.

you might like to try an detach and pretend GDP and quality of life are not linked but it is simply not the case.

Higher GDP more wealth leads to more housing better transport better healthcare lower taxes and more services.

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

the per capita GDPppp for the high migration countries like Canada/Aus/NZ has done a lot better than the low migration Japan.

you might like to try an detach and pretend GDP and quality of life are not linked but it is simply not the case.

Higher GDP more wealth leads to more housing better transport better healthcare lower taxes and more services.

Clearly more GDP has not improved the opportunity of young people in London to live in family sized houses.

Quality of life and GDP are clearly not linked: I doubt that a single economist would make that claim.

It just may be that quality of life and per capita gdp show some general correlation in some circumstances and at some times.

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

Clearly more GDP has not improved the opportunity of young people in London to live in family sized houses.

Is that a joke in relation to the fact that more flats are built in London than houses?

The majority of young people in London I know did very well thank you v.much. One family that comes to mind sold their Hackney Terrace for about £1m and bought 4 family homes in Telford and still had the best part of half a million to spare. The 3 kids (in their 20s) all got a home in the midlands with no mortgage plus most likely an inheritance too.

Had London stayed poor they would have got nothing and not been able to buy let alone own outright because all the kids in that family got low paying jobs and didn't seem to aim for much more. Even London in the 1990s was not forgiving to such people.

Quality of life and GDP are clearly not linked: I doubt that a single economist would make that claim.

:T

It just may be that quality of life and per capita gdp show some general correlation in some circumstances and at some times.

:T

Mistermeaner

CLAPTON wrote: »

Quality of life and GDP are clearly not linked: I doubt that a single economist would make that claim.

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Do you really mean that?

I could be wrong but you have I think argued pretty much the opposite in the Scotland thread

cells

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Do you really mean that?

I could be wrong but you have I think argued pretty much the opposite in the Scotland thread

he knows full well that GDP/capita and well-being are linked

he will muddy the water by trying trying to say well richer people are not happier or that once you reach a certain level the link is weaker

CLAPTON

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Do you really mean that?

I could be wrong but you have I think argued pretty much the opposite in the Scotland thread

Just draw a graph of 'quality of life ' and GDP of all the countries of the world and tell me you see a direct correlation.

now GDP per capita may show some level of correlation depending upon how you measure 'quality of life'

no idea what you are talking about in relation to scotland

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Conrad wrote: »

+ Will somehow be 'well down the pecking order' in terms of the priorities of large states

Funny you should mention that....:o

"It's fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement but that's not going to happen anytime soon because our focus is negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done."

"And the UK is going to be in the back of the queue, not because we don't have a special relationship but because given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries rather than trying to do piecemeal trade agreements is hugely efficient."

President Barack Obama - 22/04/16

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

he knows full well that GDP/capita and well-being are linked

he will muddy the water by trying trying to say well richer people are not happier or that once you reach a certain level the link is weaker

I'm glad you have at last woken up to the concept of GDP per capita rather than your nonsense worship of GDP; It's taken a long time so there's probably some hope for your economics education (in the long term given you are willing to learn).

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Funny you should mention that....:o

"It's fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement but that's not going to happen anytime soon because our focus is negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done."

"And the UK is going to be in the back of the queue, not because we don't have a special relationship but because given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries rather than trying to do piecemeal trade agreements is hugely efficient."

President Barack Obama - 22/04/16

there doesn't seem much prospect of the EU - USA trade agreement either after how many years?

obviously you are totally ignorant about the UK's existing trade with the USA

elantan

Conrad wrote: »

Must be hell having one's own seat at all the global trade, security and environmental bodies and task force's, hell.


Fancy having full responsibility for ones own affairs, brrrr, I shiver at the prospect

I know 55% of Scots did ... and that's where I shut my mouth and try to remember they are human too ... I do struggle though