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£16k in savings and £20k on Credit Cards - What would happen?

I read somewhere that if you have over £16k in savings you would not be entitled to benefits. What would happen if you had £16k in benefits BUT £20k in credit card debt due in 24-36 months due to long term purchase and balance transfer deals?

In essence, you would be -£4k in net assets. But how would the benefits office process it?

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  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    The DWP look at capital only, debt is not relevant.
  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,104 Forumite
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    if someone was claiming Universal Credit then they could use their capital (savings) to reduce the debt and this would not be considered deprivation of capital.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/473369/admh1.pdf

    Scroll down to H1795

    At the moment income based benefits such as JSA,IS, ESA would consider reducing debt (unless it was the subject of a court order) would consider this as deprivation of capital.

    Possibly one good aspect of UC.
  • ClarkeKent
    ClarkeKent Posts: 336 Forumite
    So if £8k of it was in a joint account, only £4k would be applicable to being recognised as savings for that individual claiming?
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,646 Forumite
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    ClarkeKent wrote: »
    So if £8k of it was in a joint account, only £4k would be applicable to being recognised as savings for that individual claiming?

    No. If the claimant has access to funds, as in a joint account, the total balance will be taken into account.
  • cheesetoast
    cheesetoast Posts: 258 Forumite
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    I have to ask... why are you clinging onto £16k of savings, alongside £20k of credit card debt? What's the rate you're getting on the savings? What APRs are the cards charging?
  • konark
    konark Posts: 1,260 Forumite
    I think it was a hypothetical question.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    I have to ask... why are you clinging onto £16k of savings, alongside £20k of credit card debt? What's the rate you're getting on the savings? What APRs are the cards charging?

    I do that. It's free money. I borrow at low rates such as 0% on purchases credit card and instead of paying the credit cards off each month I put my earnings into regular savers earning 6% interest.

    I currently save £1,600 per month into regular savers (currently Lloyds, TSB, Nottingham, First Direct and HSBC) but I earn much less than that each month. Everything I spend I put on a credit card. I also borrow money as a personal loan at interest rates currently being offered of around 3.2% at Sainsburys and put that into high interest current accounts currently earning at least 3% or more each month and drip feed that into the regular savers.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • bspm
    bspm Posts: 541 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    I do that. It's free money. I borrow at low rates such as 0% on purchases credit card and instead of paying the credit cards off each month I put my earnings into regular savers earning 6% interest.

    I currently save £1,600 per month into regular savers (currently Lloyds, TSB, Nottingham, First Direct and HSBC) but I earn much less than that each month. Everything I spend I put on a credit card. I also borrow money as a personal loan at interest rates currently being offered of around 3.2% at Sainsburys and put that into high interest current accounts currently earning at least 3% or more each month and drip feed that into the regular savers.

    I do too, I never use my own money currently earning various interest from 3%-6% for purchases. Currently my interest is paying me £250 per month, why would I use it?
  • How on earth have you got to being £20K in credit card debt!?

    That's horrendous!!!
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    How on earth have you got to being £20K in credit card debt!?

    That's horrendous!!!

    Given your posting history that seems incredibly hypocritical!
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