PIP Mental Health Issues

Poppie68

paragon909 wrote: »

Wow you two are on a roll tonight. Seems like every thread both of you are there to criticise OP's

You just ruined the OP's thread.

I think you will find it was you that 'ruined' this thread by your attempts of policing the forum. Funny though how you criticized me for scrolling through old posts(6hrs old) but you seem to have just done the same...Double standards?

You obviously don't understand that many drivers with MH problems or other conditions etc are not actually aware of the DVLA rules surrounding illnesses so it's not trolling to help bring awareness of the potential problems if the DVLA rules are not adhered to... Surely if you suffer from MH problems as you state you would welcome anything that brings awareness especially as this could be a serious breach of licence rules? I can see a conviction doing wonders for someone's MH.



Edit... I'm letting this go now as it should never of been started, this is what happens when some try to police threads, some may warrant it but I offered correct advice which is meant to be helpful and nobody has the right to tell others what's they can or can't post. Hopefully the op already know's or will take the advice on board as it can have serious consequences.

System

The main thing i'm getting from pip is that if you have evidence and can show you meet the criteria you have a chance. For people like myself who are solely under the care if their GP and can;t get any other help or evidence its looking less likely.


Just out of interest Poppie, i have only ever used my provisional as ID, ive never used it to drive, do i still need to inform them? If ive never used it to drive will i still get a fine for making them aware after diagnosis? I literally only renewed my provisional to have ID so i could register at a new doctors and get my meds. I'm scared of informing them in case they fine me but feel i should

HappyMJ

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

The main thing i'm getting from pip is that if you have evidence and can show you meet the criteria you have a chance. For people like myself who are solely under the care if their GP and can;t get any other help or evidence its looking less likely.


Just out of interest Poppie, i have only ever used my provisional as ID, ive never used it to drive, do i still need to inform them? If ive never used it to drive will i still get a fine for making them aware after diagnosis? I literally only renewed my provisional to have ID so i could register at a new doctors and get my meds. I'm scared of informing them in case they fine me but feel i should

They won't fine you if you don't actually drive so you'll be okay.

A citizencard can also be used as a cheaper form of photo ID.

Mrs_Ryan

I got PIP for depression and anxiety. Mine however is a complex case and I've got other stuff going off as well as that. The award says 'anxiety and depressive disorder' because that was the only diagnosis I had at the time. I now know what it's 'suspected' to be but I have no diagnosis as yet of the other condition, I'm waiting for referral for assessment and diagnosis so not said anything yet.

Poppie68

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

The main thing i'm getting from pip is that if you have evidence and can show you meet the criteria you have a chance. For people like myself who are solely under the care if their GP and can;t get any other help or evidence its looking less likely.


Just out of interest Poppie, i have only ever used my provisional as ID, ive never used it to drive, do i still need to inform them? If ive never used it to drive will i still get a fine for making them aware after diagnosis? I literally only renewed my provisional to have ID so i could register at a new doctors and get my meds. I'm scared of informing them in case they fine me but feel i should

I'm not too sure with regards to a provisional but I'm sure the application does ask for medical conditions to be declared so maybe the rules will be the same?
I can understand your trepidation about calling them, maybe an anonymous call will help you gleam further info then take it from there...

tomtontom

DomRavioli wrote: »

You need to demonstrate how you fit the criteria with evidence. The criteria are available online, with the relevant point guide. I find the disability rights one to be comprehensive but simple enough to understand.

I have MH issues (more severe than yours) and I get DLA (not changed over to PIP yet). Without demonstrating how you meet the criteria you won't get anything.

Not sure how you can say this without knowing the OP's medical history (and being qualified to understand it). You might have a different diagnosis, but depression at its worst is enough to render someone hospitalised, so no less severe than any other condition.

Although I guess it proves the OP's point about the condition not being taken seriously by some

tomtontom

paragon909 wrote: »

Seems like Poppie68 has a problem with people getting PIP whilst having mental health issues.

I didn't see people giving you stick when you made a thread about "End stage Renal Failure and PIP"

Funny how some people think they can come and post what they like then when others do give them nothing but stick bring in other threads to the debate. Have you informed DVLA about all your disabilities POPPIE68

It really annoys me that people who have sickness benefits awarded think they can lord it around and say people do this and that without even knowing.

Seems like you're singling out Poppie for personal abuse. Give it a break.

Poppie68

paragon909 wrote: »

Seems like Poppie68 has a problem with people getting PIP whilst having mental health issues.

I didn't see people giving you stick when you made a thread about "End stage Renal Failure and PIP"

Funny how some people think they can come and post what they like then when others do give them nothing but stick bring in other threads to the debate. Have you informed DVLA about all your disabilities POPPIE68

It really annoys me that people who have sickness benefits awarded think they can lord it around and say people do this and that without even knowing.

What has my previous thread regarding a dying man got to do with anything?
As you've trawled through my posts, something you by the way have criticized me for doing, if you had bothered to take in what you had read you would see I was stopped last year from driving due to a stroke and given the all clear a few months later....How did they know,telepathy??? No because I informed them as the law requires me too, like I also informed my insurance company.



This must be one of the most bizarre instances of being slated for trying to be helpful I've come across on here... Now stop with the derailing of someone else's thread just to try and look clever.

DomRavioli

tomtontom wrote: »

Not sure how you can say this without knowing the OP's medical history (and being qualified to understand it). You might have a different diagnosis, but depression at its worst is enough to render someone hospitalised, so no less severe than any other condition.

Although I guess it proves the OP's point about the condition not being taken seriously by some

I can say this because according to the DSM (the book on MH), mine is classed as a severe disorder (their words not mine), whereas A&D usually isn't (that doesn't mean that it isn't horrible, or in some cases severe). I also took that their ability to gain a driving licence (whereas I will never be allowed to drive) meant they were less affected.

A&D is taken seriously, I was making a comparison because my diagnosis means I am severely affected 24/7, hence why I get high rate care/low rate mobility DLA on an indefinite award.

I feel I am somewhat qualified to understand it. 23 years of MH, a BSc in biomedicine (4 year option, I was training to be a doctor before I got horrendously ill, but still managed to finish the degree but not the training), and an 11 year NHS career in a band 6 role within services. So yes, I think that gives me some grounding within the specific context. I might be mental, but I'm not stupid. I suggest you learn the difference.

I was merely offering advice that PIP is usually only given to the severe end of the spectrum (which is a material fact), and without showing how you meet the descriptors with evidence, you won't get any award. It is difficult to get it for MH in any case, but you have to go absolutely prepared with every piece of evidence you can find.

charlies-aunt

In my experience as a benefits advisor, it really helps if you can evidence that your mental health significantly impacts your ability to live a 'normal life'. Supporting statements from both professionals and non-professionals can help to support your statements.
Maybe I am preaching to the converted . . . . . but it is very important to read, understand and answer the actual questions on the PIP2 form, if you can give examples or if there are any areas that you want to comment on that aren't covered by the questions - put these in a supporting statement.
Try keeping a day-to-day diary of how your condition affects you -or- ask a family member or friend to do this for you and include this with your claim as it helps to give the decision maker understand how your condition affects you on a day-to-day basis.
As a final piece of advice - don't be shy about admitting to experiencing "embarrassing" side effects to your mental health such as impotence, incontinence, self harm and how this side effects impact on your life.
Hope this helps - good luck