Buying a beautiful wreck

Upsidedown_Bear

Does the sale of the land that belonged to the house/smithy have anything to do with Wickenhall Paintball which is registered at the house?
https://www.yumping.co.uk/paintball/wickenhall-paintball--e19650095

If you look on Streetview you can see a sign for Wickenhall Paintball on Huddersfield Road where it joins the road that leads to the house you are interested in.

You might know this already

Person_one

Unless you work from home or are retired I wouldn't even consider it. Unless things have got a lot better in the last few years that road's a complete nightmare when it snows, and you could be hours just trying to get out!

I'd also say that 40K probably wouldn't do it (or even close) unless you can do a lot of the work yourself or have family/friends with trades who can do mates rates or favours for you.

StumpyPumpy

Not connected to the OP's original question, but I wouldn't want to buy a doer-upper (or any other sort) when there is planning permission in for a number of houses to be built around it: http://publicaccess.rochdale.gov.uk/online-applications/caseDetails.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=MKCZHHNB20000
It might not actually get done as it was granted in 2013 and the site has a history of granted permissions to build various numbers of houses that have never been actioned, but it would make me wonder whether I was going to end up in the middle of a housing estate after a year or two.

SP

haf1

in a rural setting within 40mins of Manchester

I agree with the snow issue. This road was closed (for good reason) during the recent snowy spell. Also, travel by car to central Manchester from here during rush hour is about 1.5 hours (if you have somewhere to park). To the tram it would be quite a long walk, and then around 40 - 45 minutes on Metrolink.

The area is extremely pretty though, nice restaurants and lovely walks nearby.

konark

I know it's all in the eye of the beholder but that's one of the ugliest houses I've seen. Probably a moneypit too!

melanzana

If I was paying that money for a doer upper in a rural area, I would much prefer it to be on its own in a field or detached even.

Being attached to other properties as it is, might be problematic for refurbishment if you need permission or access or that kind of thing.

Just my 2c, and everyone has different tastes and views on this kind of thing. But whatever happens, I wish the OP the best of luck!

Cakeguts

I joined this forum to post on this thread. I couldn't work out the size of this property from the floor plans until I realised that the property wasn't just the lower bit on the end that looks as if it used to be a workshop. The property also includes the two terraced houses that are joined onto the workshop bit.

What would worry me about this whole property is the structure. Anyone buying this would have to have an extensive survey to find out how the property is supported now that some of the internal walls have been removed.

I would want to know what is under the render on the front of the workshop bit because the windows appear to stick out of the wall. If this is lightweight then to replace it you would need to consider the lintels over the windows below.

I would love to know which end this conversion started.

danielley

brodawel wrote: »

Perhaps not as convenient but http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-40544157.html

OMG! :heartpuls

Taylor132

Out, Vile Jelly - yep I guess that was over kill on the description. Its a slightly abandoned family home...not a wreck in the true sense

AdrianC - thanks. It may sound mad but I would be very interested in learning to plaster. I would like to do as much as possible between me and my husband and family and as many friends as I can persuade..... We have a plumber, electrician, painter, decorator and handy man. None experienced with older properties.

Thanks Jackyann, I'll bare that in mind.

LEJC - I would agree if I was planning on making the property a show home but I'm not. I want it water tight with heating and water. Everything else I really can live with after a damn good clean. I'm actually considering completely removing the kitchen and going back to a really old fashioned style with welsh dressers and cupboards and just shelves. I think it could look absolutely stunning if I do it right (we have a fantastic village near my parents for antiques so getting those big pieces of furniture would be very easy). Plus there is always loads of auctions around.....

Quizzical Squirrel - You are absolutely right. I haven't considered this. I am assuming minimal impact from contractors. Bare with me..... but if the damp is solved with sorting the roof and such and its weather tight. I would want to get it clean and move in slowly (the property we are in now I would rent out but the move over could be very, very slow). I would ideally like to do most of the plastering, plumbing, electrics between me and my husband. We could do the kitchen and all the decoration would happen as and when...... This may sound absolutely mental.... I just love a challenge and I am entirely sick and tired of looking on right move at identical style houses. Its not actually just 2 houses, its row of about 6 houses in total. The property I am looking at is technically 2 houses in 1. All the others (from the outside) seemed lived in and fine.

Apreciate you points later on as well - there are a hell of a lot of unknowns about who owns which bits etc. I've popped all on this on the list of need to know before even a hint of an offer goes in : )

MrsMazza - thanks for your comments. We liked the house for the sheer number of bedrooms. We have lots of family and friends quite a way from us and this would solve accomodation issues really nicely : )

Thanks Missbiggles1 : )

Brodawel - What a total opportunity or a never ending nightmare..... Good luck to whoever gets that home.

Thanks AlexMac - I can rough it with the best of them!

Smallholding sister - Good point. One thing we would definitely be investigating along with a water pipe survey (not exactly sure about the correct title but my other half wants them checked out as a few years without occupants could mean rats have nested or something...... )

DigforVictory - Just us 2 at the mo and for a good while yet. Thanks for taking the time to post. Its inspirational.

UpsidedownBear - In all honesty I don't know. This is a repossessed property so I have very limited info. I have done quite a bit of digging online. I'm aware of some of the history but I would prefer not to talk about it. After all this was a family home and it was taken away from them. Its a very sad story really.

Person_one - thanks for the info. How bad does it get. Are you cut off for long periods? I had images of just putting on my arctic snow boots and slowly wandering to the tram stop - not an option?

Stumpy Pumpy - You are good!!! I also found this and can confirm 4 very modern but beautiful and tasteful houses have been built in the area. NOT directly opposite. They are a good distance to the right of the property. I'm not viewing them as a significant downside. I'm not aware of any other building or any intentions to do this but what is the best way to check as directly in front of this house is a flattened space - my partner thought it was probably the base of the builders who have done the new builds..... again, just a guess though.

Konark - Every single other poster regardless of their views on the house has provided an opinion based on a fact of some kind. If you are just a troll set out to get a reaction, get a life. 2.27am in the morning and you have nothing better to do.......


Melanzana - Absolutely agree....But where can I get a 5 or 6 bed character property near to Manchester in a nice area that is semi rural for this price....

Cakeguts - absolutely. Very nicely phrased and going on the need to know list as well. We would of course be getting a proper survey before we bought. I know the previous owners had it for a significant period of time so I am assuming its relatively stable inside (but I won't take this as a given). It has been standing since at least 1852 though......

Sorry about the mammoth reply but hey you all had really great point so I wanted to address and/or thank each and everyone of you.

StumpyPumpy

Taylor132 wrote: »

Stumpy Pumpy - You are good!!! I also found this and can confirm 4 very modern but beautiful and tasteful houses have been built in the area. NOT directly opposite. They are a good distance to the right of the property. I'm not viewing them as a significant downside. I'm not aware of any other building or any intentions to do this but what is the best way to check as directly in front of this house is a flattened space - my partner thought it was probably the base of the builders who have done the new builds..... again, just a guess though.

In case you don't know, and if you are meaning the flattened space that is visible on Google Maps to the south of the property, then it is the site of the former Wicken Hall Print Works. In 2004 the council approved building 9 houses there although they were not done, I (with my pessimistic hat on) would think that perhaps the council would look kindly in the future on any other multiple house development nearby.

SP