UKPC, DRP & Gladstones

pappa_golf

Dazzler1987 wrote: »

Thanks guys! Really helpful information. I've checked the letter from Gladstones again and the parking 'officials' fining me are, according to them, UKPPO Ltd, something that couldn't have been possible in March 2013 as they were dormant, is that correct? Therefore, surely no claim whatsoever stands as the original company at that time now ceases to trade? The later also mentions a judgement, county court action and is signed by 'Gladstones Solicitors' not an actual rep or solicitor of that company.

Guess I'll await court papers....or not (hopefully).

Thanks again.

enjoy ,,


a nice day in court embarrassing them

Coupon-mad

Dazzler1987 wrote: »

Thanks guys! Really helpful information. I've checked the letter from Gladstones again and the parking 'officials' fining me are, according to them, UKPPO Ltd, something that couldn't have been possible in March 2013 as they were dormant, is that correct? Therefore, surely no claim whatsoever stands as the original company at that time now ceases to trade? Guess I'll await court papers....or not (hopefully).

Thanks again.

More to the point, a registered keeper cannot be held liable for a parking charge notice issued on land covered by bylaws. So one main issue is not to say who was driving after all this time.

You'll have to respond to a Letter before Claim if you get one and some would advise responding to ANY solicitor's letter, even if just to say:

... you are aware there can be no 'keeper liability' on Airport land and after all this time cannot possibly speculate who was driving three years ago! And state that you have researched and realise that UKPPO Ltd had no contract nor signs on site in that name and any photos were likely to be grainy CCTV images of the car in moving traffic, provided by Park & Fly, another agent with no ownership of the land. And you are aware that this was not a bylaws penalty either (which cannot be pursued beyond six months), so this smacks of an attempt at unjust enrichment by a third party several years after any real penalty should have been pursued under the bylaws by the Airport, had they felt there were grounds. You are not liable and will neither be paying nor attempting to name a possible driver three years later. So, they must cease and desist with this harassment.

Edit your posts above to remove anything about who was driving, from prying eyes. :cool:

And search the forum and Google for 'UKPPO Newcastle' and you will find loads of other threads and results.

... is signed by 'Gladstones Solicitors' not an actual rep or solicitor of that company.

But most solicitor letters are signed like that. It's normal for them, have you never noticed when using a solciitor for conveyancing or wills etc., that's how their letters are (in most cases).

Is the letter a 'Letter before Claim' or just a letter like any other from DRPLus, demanding money and saying we may recommend court action, blah blah?

Dazzler1987

I don't believe it's an LBC, however I'm not sure the difference? This is the initial solicitors letter, a breakdown of possible extra charges if it goes to court, saying to make a payment I should contact DRP to pay, not the solicitors directly. I'm stuck cause I do not want to wait for court papers really but I'm not sure if they will even come. It's also not at the top of my desire list to pay these wa****s for nothing but daylight robbery.

How do I identity an LBC?

Herzlos

It should make it fairly clear, and should indicate action will occur if you don't pay by a given date. So "If payment is not recieved by ____, small claim papers *will* be issued".

It's not a claim if they are using wishy-washy terms like "Payment is required by ___ or the issue will be referred back to the client with the recommendation that action should be taken".

Coupon-mad

Dazzler1987 wrote: »

I don't believe it's an LBC, however I'm not sure the difference? This is the initial solicitors letter, a breakdown of possible extra charges if it goes to court, saying to make a payment I should contact DRP to pay, not the solicitors directly. I'm stuck cause I do not want to wait for court papers really but I'm not sure if they will even come. It's also not at the top of my desire list to pay these wa****s for nothing but daylight robbery.

How do I identity an LBC?

It would be headed up 'Letter before Claim'. This one is not that, it is a standard misleading letter used by DRPlus themselves:

This is the initial solicitors letter, a breakdown of possible extra charges if it goes to court, saying to make a payment I should contact DRP to pay, not the solicitors directly.

And if it was a LBC, it would match the images you will find on Google when you search for 'LBCCC Gladstones parking' or just 'LBC Gladstones parking'. Instead you will no doubt find it matches LOADS of other forum threads talking about a debt collector letter. Use Google images and read forum results containing that letter. You will see it discussed absolutely dozens of times.

Dazzler1987

By law, do they have to send out an LBC prior to actioning the courts?

I reckon I'll ride this out, I'll obviously respond if I get an LBC with the advice above.

I appreciate all of the help, it's great to see the stand we are putting up against these cowboys. I feel sorry for people such as the elderly or disadvantaged as I can imagine they fall victim to this daily without knowing to fight. Makes me sick!!

Redx

so please change the thread title to UKPPO from UKPC

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Coupon-mad

Dazzler1987 wrote: »

By law, do they have to send out an LBC prior to actioning the courts?

Under the Practice Direction that is the procedure for a claimant to follow, yes.

I reckon I'll ride this out, I'll obviously respond if I get an LBC with the advice above.

I appreciate all of the help, it's great to see the stand we are putting up against these cowboys. I feel sorry for people such as the elderly or disadvantaged as I can imagine they fall victim to this daily without knowing to fight. Makes me sick!!

Totally agree, and I would ride it out if in your shoes as well.

Same as here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5442341

Maybe swap email addresses by pm so you can both compare notes as you ignore this scam.

The_Slithy_Tove

Dazzler1987 wrote: »

By law, do they have to send out an LBC prior to actioning the courts?

I reckon I'll ride this out, I'll obviously respond if I get an LBC with the advice above.

If you haven't found it already, just read this rather lengthy thread to understand why this will never, ever go near a court: http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102097. It would expose the whole sham and the pack of cards will come tumbling down.

Saniyas

Hi, did you reply back to Gladstones? If no, have they come back to you?

They have sent me a letter last week so contemplating what to do?

Thanks