Owner/Keeper of vehicle

Silver-Surfer_2

cjdavies wrote: »

When you apply for a reg doc and there is a keeper on the record, DVLA will write to the current keeper and query it.

The should write but don't always.

Herzlos

It'll also go to the address on file. I assume that if you don't know where he lives, he's moved since it was registered and he probably didn't update it.

You've then got a V5 in your name, but no keys or location for the car, and he's still got a (now) invalid V5. If he sells it privately the new owner will no nothing about him not owning it until it gets to the DVLA who may or may not flag it up.

He's the registered keeper, in possession of the car and keys, and pays the insurance/tax. He also ignores bailiffs, so a small claim is probably pointless.

So how much is the car worth? Why haven't the bailiffs already taken it?

shaun_from_Africa

Herzlos wrote: »

So how much is the car worth? Why haven't the bailiffs already taken it?

There are a number of possible reasons for this, some of which are:

1/ They simply don't have a current address for him to serve any legal papers.

2/ He claims that the car is used for his employment and as such is a tool of his trade.

3/ If any bailiffs did find him, he simply claims that the car is not owned by him. If he still has the contract signed by him and the OP, the bailiffs and they accept that it is genuine, they couldn't take the car as it's not his.

maddogb

cjdavies wrote: »

When you apply for a reg doc and there is a keeper on the record, DVLA will write to the current keeper and query it.

lol I thought it was implied that the car would be back in the procession of it's rightful owner by then.

Herzlos

maddogb wrote: »

lol I thought it was implied that the car would be back in the procession of it's rightful owner by then.

But how would the DVLA know? It only knows the registered keeper. If she reposesses the car and he's still the RK, he'll just report it as stolen.

maddogb

Herzlos wrote: »

But how would the DVLA know? It only knows the registered keeper. If she reposesses the car and he's still the RK, he'll just report it as stolen.

sorry I should of been clearer, what I meant was that "impounding" or seizing the car in some way (think parking company methods) would force the issue and make him pay up.
It's doubtful he would do anything risking the car itself as logically a court would use what payments he has made so far to cover any damage.


I would think the police will refuse to get involved once a bill of sale is produced.

DUTR

maddogb wrote: »

sorry I should of been clearer, what I meant was that "impounding" or seizing the car in some way (think parking company methods) would force the issue and make him pay up.
It's doubtful he would do anything risking the car itself as logically a court would use what payments he has made so far to cover any damage.


I would think the police will refuse to get involved once a bill of sale is produced.

You miss the character in the earlier post, he doesn't pay what he owes to many if anyone, if he had the money he would have purchased the car himself.

maddogb

DUTR wrote: »

You miss the character in the earlier post, he doesn't pay what he owes to many if anyone, if he had the money he would have purchased the car himself.

amazing how incentivised to pay they get when there's motivation like losing your car.

tiamaria

Thank you for your comments, is it worth me telling the DVLA that the car isn't legally his so he can't sell it?