More Conservative policy on housing revealed

slipthru

lynzpower wrote: »

Guy, the reason why they are in there "clogging" its that security of tenure yet again. Which I know you personally always campaign for ( as do I)

Therefore if you get the council flat when on benefits, maange to get on the job ladder, got your kids in school and so on, would YOU really risk the secure tenancy for dodgy landlords and moving every 12 months. Not being funny, but If I got a secure tenancy i wouldnt wanna give it up, nor would I really recommend any other moneysavers do either.

The voice of reason. No one in thier right mind would give a secure tenancy to privately rent and move every year. It just doesn't make sense.

lynzpower

mind you Im certain the tories would do away with security of tenure anyway, theyd have to in order for this to be a workable solution.

I could never support this.

Turnbull2000

slipthru wrote: »

The voice of reason. No one in thier right mind would give a secure tenancy to privately rent and move every year. It just doesn't make sense.

And once again those caught in the middle (of social and unaffordable housing) are pi**ed on.

Melissa177

There would fewer properties available to rent if there was security of tenure, I reckon.

Lynz - can you explain what security of tenure is to an idiot like me? Isn't that why we have ASTs? Or could ASTs still apply, and security of tenure apply to period tennancies?

lynzpower

Turnbull2000 wrote: »

And once again those caught in the middle (of social and unaffordable housing) are pi**ed on.

Agreed, but I think therefore we should look at giving tenants longer and more secure tenancies across the board ( much more common on the continent than here) rather than reducing rights to housing further.

lynzpower

Your not an idiot melanie

http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-3136.cfm heres something on council tenancies, the types

housing associations http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-6570.cfm

Turnbull2000

Melissa177 wrote: »

There would fewer properties available to rent if there was security of tenure, I reckon.

Lynz - can you explain what security of tenure is to an idiot like me? Isn't that why we have ASTs? Or could ASTs still apply, and security of tenure apply to period tennancies?

ASTs generally guarantee a home for only a maximum of six months - after which you may be evicted at a landlords discretion and without reason. Not ideal if you're priced out of buying and wish to have a secure home.

On the continent, not only are rents much cheaper, but you can also be guaranteed a secure tenancy over many years (or life) and a landlord cannot evict you on two months notice for requesting repairs, to sell up behind you back, re-advertise at a higher rent etc.

I believe we used to have similar levels of protection in the UK, but these laws were removed and replaced with the AST sometime in the late 80's. I'm not sure of the exact facts.

Guy_Montag

lynzpower wrote: »

Your not an idiot melanie

http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-3136.cfm heres something on council tenancies, the types

housing associations http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-6570.cfm

You are, she's called Melissa

lynzpower

:wall: @Me !!

Guy_Montag

Melissa177 wrote: »

There would fewer properties available to rent if there was security of tenure, I reckon.

Lynz - can you explain what security of tenure is to an idiot like me? Isn't that why we have ASTs? Or could ASTs still apply, and security of tenure apply to period tennancies?

With social housing a tenant will typically get an indefinite tenancy, with the option, I believe to pass it on to a near relative, should they pass away. This is always assuming they pay their rent & behave themselves.

With an AST you typically get 6 or 12 months security of tenure, then either the agreement is renewed or the tenant moves onto a periodic tenancy in which case they may be evicted with two months' notice, similarly they may be given an (unlimited) rent increase with two months' notice.

So as you can see if you want to make your rented property your home, social housing offers a much better option, however, that option is not open to most (hard-working) people. Once you're in the system it is not in your interest to leave unless you wish to buy a house. This is best done by taking advantage of your right[sic] to buy at a discount, which removes that dwelling from the social housing pool.