Sugar Tax

Generali

cells wrote: »

although I dont like telling people what to do or eat I do think there should be a more education in schools on the basics of life and health and running households. everything from how to cook clean & iron to proper hygiene (dental too) and how to manage finances and spending and be MSE.

I would go as far as to say more than half of households lack common sense basic housekeeping skills and basic life skills.


For the sugar tax, maybe the state does have a role in shaping diets and activities. Even typing that my mind tells me off by thinking....why not have ration cards and we can all be given a pre planed menu going out a week. Having said that the best taxes are the ones I dont pay and since I dont drink much sugar soda this is one i support if for no other reason than that

I'd support teaching people more about lifestyle in schools. As a libertarian I like people to have the skills to be able to make good decisions.

Mistermeaner

I did home economics at school. Unfortunately nothing to do with economics, it was as i remember being shouted at for sewing my hand puppet to my trousers and flicking elastic in eddies eye.

Do they teach mortgages and interest and loans and taxation etc in schools nowadays? They should. Its weird you have to go and do all that stuff with no knowledge.

I can still remember pi to 4 decimal places though and that sin = opp/hyp . the amount of times that has bailed me out.......

Generali

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I did home economics at school. Unfortunately nothing to do with economics, it was as i remember being shouted at for sewing my hand puppet to my trousers and flicking elastic in eddies eye.

Do they teach mortgages and interest and loans and taxation etc in schools nowadays? They should. Its weird you have to go and do all that stuff with no knowledge.

I can still remember pi to 4 decimal places though and that sin = opp/hyp . the amount of times that has bailed me out.......

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mwpt

Generali wrote: »

I'd support teaching people more about lifestyle in schools. As a libertarian I like people to have the skills to be able to make good decisions.

You're not a libertarian!

Generali

mwpt wrote: »

You're not a libertarian!

What am I then?

I think of myself as Libertarian Lite.

mwpt

Generali wrote: »

What am I then?

I think of myself as Libertarian Lite.

Heh, well you support a welfare state for one thing. Libertarians favour zero or almost zero state intervention. Even the idea of tax as coercion would be against a true libertarian's views.

Libertarian lite, maybe so.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

My boyfriend is Type 1 diabetic and always has Lucozade by the bed and in the fridge in case of a hypo. He has glucose tablets too, but a swig of sugary drink is often the quickest. I don't know how accurate the John Barnes "isotonic so it gets to your thirst-fast" scientific endorsement is, but it is effective and he likes the taste.

Given he gets free insulin and needle disposal, and regular medical check-ups I don't think he begrudges buying a couple of bottles of pop a week, and if they ever got prohibitively expensive presumably they would go on prescription.

SnooksNJ

Feral_Moon wrote: »

They don't need to live until they're 80 with the ever increasing onset of T2 diabetes occurring in children as young as 10, by the time they reach 40 they will already have cost the NHS tens of thousands of pounds.

Quote: "Until 10 years ago, type 2 diabetes accounted for less than 3% of all cases of new-onset diabetes in adolescents. At present 45% of cases are attributed to it (3,4)."

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/34/Supplement_2/S161.full

"For some people, type 2 diabetes may be managed through diet and exercise. Other people may also need medication to manage blood sugar.

Risk factors for type 2 diabetes include being over 40, having a family history of diabetes, being of South Asian, African-Caribbean or Middle Eastern origin or being overweight or obese."


What about the 10 year olds who have a healthy diet and still develop diabetes? Do you begrudge them using the NHS? Does you belief certain people should be subjected to a surcharge in tax in order to use the NHS extend to other illnesses or just those with diabetes?
IMO, If MD's are writing scripts costing 10's of thousands of pounds as you claim, instead of trying to control diabetes with exercise and certain foods that sounds like a problem to me.

mwpt

SnooksNJ wrote: »

What about the 10 year olds who have a healthy diet and still develop diabetes? Do you begrudge them using the NHS?

No, of course not. Why would you think anyone supporting the sugar tax would think that?

Pennywise

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I did home economics at school. Unfortunately nothing to do with economics, it was as i remember being shouted at for sewing my hand puppet to my trousers and flicking elastic in eddies eye.

Do they teach mortgages and interest and loans and taxation etc in schools nowadays? They should. Its weird you have to go and do all that stuff with no knowledge.

I can still remember pi to 4 decimal places though and that sin = opp/hyp . the amount of times that has bailed me out.......

Unfortunately, the chances of getting any sensible "lifestyle" education from the current set up of teachers/schools is remarkably small.

Just look at how it latched on to climate change, recycling, etc - lots of hysteria and dodgy information being imposed on young impressionable minds. It's infiltrated almost every subject and has totally lost it's impact, made worse by a lot of duff information which the kids know is duff!

Same with school meals - they just remove what they deem as unhealthy so the kids end up bringing stuff in from home instead. Trouble is, a lot of what they have deemed "healthy" is just as bad - i.e. frozen processed pizzas that probably have next to zero actual nourishment!

I'm completely against any more creeping politicalisation of schools -it's bad enough as it is!