The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

chewmylegoff

By all means go ahead and spend the next year or so repeating the previous thread, but for anyone who would like to know the outcome of this thread without waiting for 10,000 more posts to be amassed, let me summarise in advance for you:

Shakey, Leanne, and Etalan will interpret anything that happens between now and the end of this thread as evidence that (a) support for independence is increasing and (b) the economic case for independence is becoming stronger. There is literally nothing that the SNP could do which they would not view as a tactical master stroke on the road to independence.

Every opinion poll will be seen as positive for independence, even if it shows that the majority of scots do not want independence, or support for independence falling. Even another lost referendum in which only three people voted for independence would be a good thing for independence in their eyes.

By all means keep trying to convince them otherwise. I'm going to see whether I can get a monkey to type the complete works of Shakespeare instead.

Leanne1812

chewmylegoff wrote: »

By all means go ahead and spend the next year or so repeating the previous thread, but for anyone who would like to know the outcome of this thread without waiting for 10,000 more posts to be amassed, let me summarise in advance for you:

Shakey, Leanne, and Etalan will interpret anything that happens between now and the end of this thread as evidence that (a) support for independence is increasing and (b) the economic case for independence is becoming stronger. There is literally nothing that the SNP could do which they would not view as a tactical master stroke on the road to independence.

Every opinion poll will be seen as positive for independence, even if it shows that the majority of scots do not want independence, or support for independence falling. Even another lost referendum in which only three people voted for independence would be a good thing for independence in their eyes.

By all means keep trying to convince them otherwise. I'm going to see whether I can get a monkey to type the complete works of Shakespeare instead.

Well cheers for that expert analysis. Maybe you are right but possibly not. Maybe you need to remind yourself that this is only your opinion. As valid as anyone's but just another opinion.

FWIW I don't know if support is rising but this is going to be a long game. Wait & listen during the summer when a new initiative starts which I'll assume will be geared towards no/undecideds. There will be hard questions to answer. If they cannot be satisfactorily then don't fret. If support does not rise there will be no indy2 for quite some time.

It's quite amazing though how this subject gets quite a few folk so heated. I imagine veins popping every now and then. It's fun

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

You are talking rubbish Shakey - read the links I gave you, the legal advice is all there and it is you that can't understand, or more likely don't want to understand.

Wise up.

Scotland a successor state the same as rUK or Scotland a brand new state. Which one do you think is more likely string ?

Shakethedisease

chewmylegoff wrote: »

By all means go ahead and spend the next year or so repeating the previous thread, but for anyone who would like to know the outcome of this thread without waiting for 10,000 more posts to be amassed, let me summarise in advance for you:

Shakey, Leanne, and Etalan will interpret anything that happens between now and the end of this thread as evidence that (a) support for independence is increasing and (b) the economic case for independence is becoming stronger. There is literally nothing that the SNP could do which they would not view as a tactical master stroke on the road to independence.

Every opinion poll will be seen as positive for independence, even if it shows that the majority of scots do not want independence, or support for independence falling. Even another lost referendum in which only three people voted for independence would be a good thing for independence in their eyes.

By all means keep trying to convince them otherwise. I'm going to see whether I can get a monkey to type the complete works of Shakespeare instead.

Someone missed the memo.

And provides people with no interest whatsoever in anything Scotland related ample opportunity to scroll past should they wish.

No one is particularly interested in the fact that you're not interested in this thread. Do us all a huge favour and keep scrolling next time.

LABMAN

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Me too. Mabye I should edit... Oh, I'm not sure if you can here actually.

edit - Found it.

You do seem fond of this word given the number of times you use it...what does it actually mean?

Leanne1812

LABMAN wrote: »

You do seem fond of this word given the number of times you use it...what does it actually mean?

What a great contribution to the thread....


There's a word for people like you. I shouldn't use it on here though or I might get banned.

elantan

chewmylegoff wrote: »

By all means go ahead and spend the next year or so repeating the previous thread, but for anyone who would like to know the outcome of this thread without waiting for 10,000 more posts to be amassed, let me summarise in advance for you:

Shakey, Leanne, and Etalan will interpret anything that happens between now and the end of this thread as evidence that (a) support for independence is increasing and (b) the economic case for independence is becoming stronger. There is literally nothing that the SNP could do which they would not view as a tactical master stroke on the road to independence.

Every opinion poll will be seen as positive for independence, even if it shows that the majority of scots do not want independence, or support for independence falling. Even another lost referendum in which only three people voted for independence would be a good thing for independence in their eyes.

By all means keep trying to convince them otherwise. I'm going to see whether I can get a monkey to type the complete works of Shakespeare instead.

foaming at the mouth ... some people spend so long on things they hate like the idea of a country being independant ...I do wonder if they actually hate them

Mistermeaner

Its not the thought of indi Scotland that winds people up its the pig ignorant attitudes.

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I'm not quite sure what you're failing to understand.

There are either two successor states Scotland + r UK. Both taking on their fair share's of debt, assets, liabilities and treaty agreements.

OR

There is one continuator state taking on ALL debt, assets, liabilities and treaty agreements. And one brand new state which starts off with none of assets from the former union, but also no debt.

BetterTogether tried to paint a newly independent Scotland as a successor state re the debt, but a brand new state regarding assets, and treaties. It was a ludicrous position as Scotland couldn't clearly be both. But it worked in terms of the EU etc. Though I doubt it will work a second time round since I'd guess there will be no currency or EU debate if there's a next time.

Your linked legal position is only one of many. However, there is no way Scotland was extinguished by virtue of signing up to the Union, but England somehow magically wasn't also. Not on this legal planet.

There is a chance of exactly 0 that Scotland is the Successor State of the United Kingdom.

It's a joke right? You are not honestly proposing that 5 million people form the successor state upon quitting a country of 65 million.

I know you like to make this stuff as you go along (YouGov springs to mind) but c'mon. Don't embarrass yourself.

Rinoa

Nicola says Scottish rich folk will pay more income tax than English rich folk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35864248