What did you pay for your Mokka?

londonTiger

photome wrote: »

Why is it obvious


I just bought my first brand new car and paid no where near list price

car dealerships exist to make money, car salesmen are skilled at playing 3 cup ball magic, they'll give you what appears like a bargain but then claw back the discounts the give elsewhere.

Most likely they inflated the sale price, you may think the price you paid for it was decent say 15% off list price, but had you paid cash you may have been able to neogtiate the price down to 25% less than list price.

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

car dealerships exist to make money, car salesmen are skilled at playing 3 cup ball magic, they'll give you what appears like a bargain but then claw back the discounts the give elsewhere.

Most likely they inflated the sale price, you may think the price you paid for it was decent say 15% off list price, but had you paid cash you may have been able to neogtiate the price down to 25% less than list price.

Have you ever bought new?

Thought not, because you'd know finance beats cash. They make money out of you twice that way.

photome

londonTiger wrote: »

car dealerships exist to make money, car salesmen are skilled at playing 3 cup ball magic, they'll give you what appears like a bargain but then claw back the discounts the give elsewhere.

Most likely they inflated the sale price, you may think the price you paid for it was decent say 15% off list price, but had you paid cash you may have been able to neogtiate the price down to 25% less than list price.

You have it your way. You usually do and it's usually wrong

I have been around a long time and knew what price I was willing to pay and ended up paying £3000 less than that

cajef

londonTiger wrote: »

car dealerships exist to make money, car salesmen are skilled at playing 3 cup ball magic, they'll give you what appears like a bargain but then claw back the discounts the give elsewhere.

Most likely they inflated the sale price,

Would you like to say how you come these conclusions, are these expert opinions based on the number of brand new cars you have bought.

How can dealers inflate sale prices above the manufactures list prices, I have always managed to get good deals on all brand new cars I have bought with a lot of extras thrown in for free, including on my present one as well as a good discount for cash and no trade in a grand cash back from the manufacturer.

londonTiger

cajef wrote: »

Would you like to say how you come these conclusions, are these expert opinions based on the number of brand new cars you have bought.

How can dealers inflate sale prices above the manufactures listed prices, I have always managed to get good deals on all new cars I have bought with a lot of extras thrown in for free, including on my last one as well as a good discount for cash and no trade in a grand cash back from the manufacturer.

nobody was suggesting that the dealer was inflating the price above dealer prices. He suggested he got a bargain price AND 0% credit for 5 years. The numbers just dont compute, if dealer gives him 0% credit for 5 years that means the dealer/finance company is losing out. Because £88 in 2011 is worth £100.77 today

Having the dealer agree on 0% deal at todays prices that means they are going to get hit by inflation cost quite heavily on the last years of the finance.

Maybe the dealer made a huge mistake, but I would be inclined to believe that the dealer gave him a £3000 discount when they had the margins to give him £4500 discount. Gave a reduced discount to claw back the loss from inflation over the 0% loan.

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

nobody was suggesting that the dealer was inflating the price above dealer prices. He suggested he got a bargain price AND 0% credit for 5 years. The numbers just dont compute, if dealer gives him 0% credit for 5 years that means the dealer/finance company is losing out. Because £88 in 2011 is worth £100.77 today

Having the dealer agree on 0% deal at todays prices that means they are going to get hit by inflation cost quite heavily on the last years of the finance.

Maybe the dealer made a huge mistake, but I would be inclined to believe that the dealer gave him a £3000 discount when they had the margins to give him £4500 discount. Gave a reduced discount to claw back the loss from inflation over the 0% loan.

So you're just making it up as you go along?

londonTiger

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

So you're just making it up as you go along?

yes if you believe math, profitability caluctions is subjective.

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

yes if you believe math, profitability caluctions is subjective.

How many new cars have yo bought to get first hand figures?

GwylimT

sacsquacco wrote: »

Rubbish..you bought it because you wanted to give the image you "hunt bears on the weekends " That was a Jeremy Clarkson joke !. But why would you be stuck with an overweight ponderous lump all year just so on a few occasions you can see over a hedge ?. They are a fashion statement like tattoos, fake tan and skinny fit jeans. Personally I dislike these monsters because they hog the parking spaces in my local Sainsburys. They are so obese they take up half the next bay. the Mokka is just yet another poser vehicle trying to give the impression of being an off roader when it can t actually deliver.

I take it you hate mondeos, which are wider and longer than the mokka.

cajef

londonTiger wrote: »

nobody was suggesting that the dealer was inflating the price above dealer prices.

Erm, you want to try and remember what you post instead of making things up.

londonTiger wrote: »

Most likely they inflated the sale price